Anyone a weak confronter
Anyone a weak confronter
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dieseluser07

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2,452 posts

145 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Lately i have been taking more and more of a leave it stance rather than confronting people.

I get bad confrontational anxiety prior to speaking to someone about something that upsets me or annoys me and a lot of the time i will just leave it and suffer the annoyance.

Even when i do confront, my voice sometimes gets shaky, what i want to say comes out completely wrong and i end up smiling or backtracking on what i say as soon as they disagree with me.

I dont think it helps that my partner is very confrontational, as a result i generally take a back seat.

Anyone any tips to overcome this?

MDMA .

10,682 posts

130 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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join a Judo club. get into grappling. next time anyone gives you any st, take them down and choke them out. 12-24 months and you'll not have a problem backing down smile

HTH.

Edited by MDMA . on Tuesday 28th June 12:37

andy-xr

13,204 posts

233 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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The more you avoid it, the bigger and scarier it becomes. I read a really great book (it's self help so always take with a bucket load of salt) about how to deal with someone who had BPD (ie they could accuse you of something that's so far out from what your intention was) called Stop Walking on Eggshells.

What I found was that if you take the silent approach and give the look, it doesnt do anything in terms of resolving conflict, as you still have the problem, it's just someone's shouted you down.

You dont have to be firmwith your tone of voice and you dont have to 'win' every confrontation, it just needs that the other party can see your angle and your concerns. Whether they do anything about it can only be influenced so much

iphonedyou

10,409 posts

186 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Massively!

I have few skills, but I'm well read and can put together a cogent point with some eloquence. I'm also generally given to prolixity and as such will wax lyrical on a point of interest should anybody be interested.

Now ask me to do the same in an argument situation, or with somebody likely to disagree with me, and I fall to pieces. My face turns red, I feel hot, I stumble over my words and forget 80% of the key points I've run over in my head beforehand.

Now I just avoid problems altogether. So my fiance and I have spoken all of about 30 words to each other in two days. Which is great.

andy-xr mentioned BPD and the difficulties communicating with somebody that has it. It isn't my fiance but conversing with somebody with BPD has essentially ruined my ability to confront.


anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Often the shaking comes from the fact that you have let it build up over time and all the anger is coming out in one go and affecting your ability to deliver what you actually want to say. Best to get it done asap after the initial event.

dieseluser07

Original Poster:

2,452 posts

145 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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I think half my problem is i doubt myself a lot and im not even sure if im being reasonable and this makes me convince myself i shouldent even bring it up.

LordJammy

3,114 posts

218 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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I love kicking off. It makes me feel big.

Alex_225

7,731 posts

230 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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For me it depends on the situation and person you have to confront.

I find it harder to confront someone who I'm familiar with so for example a friend or family member about something beyond someone who is a relative stranger. Same would go for if you're dealing with something customer service related, I'm not one to go in guns blazing as there's that awkwardness or maybe embarrassment about complaining. Probably a bit of a British thing to do.

Everyone is different though and if you have conviction in what you feel you're confronting someone about or you feel wronged in some way try and take confidence from that. Easier said than done I know.

dieseluser07

Original Poster:

2,452 posts

145 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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LordJammy said:
I love kicking off. It makes me feel big.
Big man

burritoNinja

690 posts

129 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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iphonedyou said:
Massively!

I have few skills, but I'm well read and can put together a cogent point with some eloquence. I'm also generally given to prolixity and as such will wax lyrical on a point of interest should anybody be interested.

Now ask me to do the same in an argument situation, or with somebody likely to disagree with me, and I fall to pieces. My face turns red, I feel hot, I stumble over my words and forget 80% of the key points I've run over in my head beforehand.

Now I just avoid problems altogether. So my fiance and I have spoken all of about 30 words to each other in two days. Which is great.

andy-xr mentioned BPD and the difficulties communicating with somebody that has it. It isn't my fiance but conversing with somebody with BPD has essentially ruined my ability to confront.
Is BPD Bipolar or Bordlerline Personality?

I have Bipolar and yes it can cause issues.

read5458

503 posts

212 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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You've just described my confrontation problems completely.

I spent the majority of my school life being bullied and frequently beaten or used as a target for objects they were throwing. This ranged from chairs, 400 page school books, pens, pencils, metal sharpeners and on occasion, having them use staplers on me, every day.

The usual ignorance from the teachers didn't help. The one time I was pushed over the edge and launched one of them over a table and proceeded to hit him, other cronies started using my head and torso as a football. So standing up for myself was essentially "kicked" out of me, especially as I was sent down to the deputy head teacher because I had been disruptive whilst the other scum were told to sit back down and had no punishment.

Anxiety in public areas as well as a fear of confrontation with anyone causes me to behave as you, OP.

Rather fortunate that the iAPT counselor for depression and other issues I was sent to speak with, told me the only person to blame for everything, was me.


I'd love to be able to change the anxiety and nerves but I doubt I could now. I think it's the "flight" that sets in for self preservation, rather than "fight" after spending more than a decade having my backside handed to me by scumbags.

Pothole

34,367 posts

311 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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dieseluser07 said:
I think half my problem is i doubt myself a lot and im not even sure if im being reasonable and this makes me convince myself i shouldent even bring it up.
Do you really need to be reasonable? I think it's often overrated.

Matt UK

18,084 posts

229 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Pothole said:
dieseluser07 said:
I think half my problem is i doubt myself a lot and im not even sure if im being reasonable and this makes me convince myself i shouldent even bring it up.
Do you really need to be reasonable? I think it's often overrated.
I believe it was George Bernard Shaw - "My specialty is being right when other people are wrong. The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man".

OP think of it this way - world progress depends on you!

8Ace

2,836 posts

227 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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dieseluser07 said:
I think half my problem is i doubt myself a lot and im not even sure if im being reasonable and this makes me convince myself i shouldent even bring it up.
Anxiety-five.

This is me, absolutely and completely. I worry that it's properly affecting my life.

Neil H

15,418 posts

280 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Confidence is the key really. To be assertive – getting your point across in a controlled and non-aggressive way – you really need to feel confident in what you’re saying.

I would recommend focusing on building your confidence – do some activities that take you out of your comfort zone, think positively and don’t dwell on what you think are your bad points.

iphonedyou

10,409 posts

186 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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burritoNinja said:
Is BPD Bipolar or Bordlerline Personality?

I have Bipolar and yes it can cause issues.
Borderline in this instance, Ninja.

Triumph Man

9,576 posts

197 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Yeah I can't do confrontation. I either suffer the inconvenience, or go all stammering and out of breath when I try to confront.


omgus

7,305 posts

204 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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I find that a lot of people cannot do confrontation unless they get irrationally angry.

It is very rare that i see people confront or deal with an issue without losing their composure.

TITWONK

530 posts

196 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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That is the key, stay cool, calm and collective. I'm rubbish at it so don't do it very often except with customers as i'm a sales man but i wear a different mask at work. id get the squeaky shake in my voice and come out with rubbish if i got carried away out side of work, sometimes I get that at work too! as it happens im usually pretty chilled so do not have many issues to confront smile
but yeah overall im a weak confronter biggrin
the times i have been successful i have put it over as a banter type thing but get straight to the point, it helps to expect a reasonable response back too rather than thinking im going to bitterly upset someone. unless you have chose a wasp of a man to confront, most people are pretty accommodating.

Shnozz

30,630 posts

300 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Neil H said:
Confidence is the key really. To be assertive – getting your point across in a controlled and non-aggressive way – you really need to feel confident in what you’re saying.

I would recommend focusing on building your confidence – do some activities that take you out of your comfort zone, think positively and don’t dwell on what you think are your bad points.
Exactly this.

I am fortunate in that I grew to be confident but have recommended Toastmasters to other people over the years. It is more about public speaking than solely confrontation but I believe a weakness in those fields constitutes a similar anxiety in people. Might be worth a look.