Porsche 964 Current Asking Prices WTF
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Prices for the coupes have not been in the low 20's for a long time. Certainly longer than 6 months ago. Whether they are selling now for 40s is another question (maybe the very best ones do and are bought by collectors). 18 months ago there were rarely more than 60 964s for sale in the PH classifieds at any one time. Of those only a handful were coupes and the C2 was a particularly rare beast. Now there are double that number advertised. So I guess there's a lot of folk trying to cash out.
You'll get a rust bucket that needs a £30k restoration for £20k. Thats been the case for a while. There in lies the conundrum. Maybe look at LHD but those prices are pretty high now too. Cars I saw on the continent for sale have doubled in price.
Not many RHD 964 coupes made in the first place. I'd bite the bullet and buy a good one like one of these cars. The LHD one at JZM looks like a particularly well cared for car at a fair price.
http://www.jzmporsche.com/porsche-for-sale/classic...
http://www.jzmporsche.com/porsche-for-sale/911/lhd...
Not many RHD 964 coupes made in the first place. I'd bite the bullet and buy a good one like one of these cars. The LHD one at JZM looks like a particularly well cared for car at a fair price.
http://www.jzmporsche.com/porsche-for-sale/classic...
http://www.jzmporsche.com/porsche-for-sale/911/lhd...
nigelonich said:
I have been looking at getting a manual coupe 964 C2 or C4 for a while now and in the last 6 months the prices have risen about 30%. cars in the low 20's are now in the 40's in most cases. What happened? Are people paying this for them or not?
Wouldn't that be 80-100% rise?IMI A said:
You'll get a rust bucket that needs a £30k restoration for £20k. Thats been the case for a while. There in lies the conundrum. Maybe look at LHD but those prices are pretty high now too. Cars I saw on the continent for sale have doubled in price.
Not many RHD 964 coupes made in the first place. I'd bite the bullet and buy a good one like one of these cars. The LHD one at JZM looks like a particularly well cared for car at a fair price.
http://www.jzmporsche.com/porsche-for-sale/classic...
http://www.jzmporsche.com/porsche-for-sale/911/lhd...
I know the LHD car at JZM really well. It really was a no expense spared rebuild of that car and drives beautifully. I hear that because of the pound weakness that it has had a fair amount of interest from Europe too. Not many RHD 964 coupes made in the first place. I'd bite the bullet and buy a good one like one of these cars. The LHD one at JZM looks like a particularly well cared for car at a fair price.
http://www.jzmporsche.com/porsche-for-sale/classic...
http://www.jzmporsche.com/porsche-for-sale/911/lhd...
berty37 said:
I hear that because of the pound weakness that it has had a fair amount of interest from Europe too.
Apparently the canny dealers foresaw Brexit & the resulting sterling fall and stocked up on LHD accordingly: http://www.ferdinandmagazine.com/porsche-prices-br...IknowJoseph said:
Apparently the canny dealers foresaw Brexit & the resulting sterling fall and stocked up on LHD accordingly: http://www.ferdinandmagazine.com/porsche-prices-br...
Not sure about that article but never seen that website before...that's my afternoon sorted! Standard C2 manual cars are difficult to find but if you dont mind a tip there will be a reasonable saving. A lot of the attraction for the 964 is that it has the original air cooled body shape but with much more modern underpinnings making the chassis and brakes very easy to tune. This gives you a car with a lot of character but with contempory analogue handling and modern reliability making it a 'best of both worlds' car. Not sure that you are correct about values being that low a year ago. They had crept into the 40's by mid 2015.
Sorry if my £values and my %'s were not correct but in short a 'vanilla' 100k mile decent manual coupe £asking has gone up about £10k in 2016 alone, that is a fact. The 150k mile plus cars have had a real push up in comparison while the genuine RS cars have stuck high (loads available too). I wonder if its the RS that has dragged the non RS manual coupes up the most but the Singer effect must be a strong influence. Im not planning or even dreaming of a RS copy conversion or a Singer Evocation etc, i just wanted a stock 964 manual coupe to see what it was like for a year or so. Real basic was the base case. I am happy to PX my 968 Club Sport in Maritime for it if you have one.
LHD? Yes I have been looking at those but the price differential isn't that much that I need to compromise on changing gear with my other arm.
Tip? My head and heart say no sadly as that would open up lots more options.
Cab/Targa: I live in Scotland....
Then you wander into the world of something like this which is sweet looking although would prefer black interior.
http://www.yorkshireclassicporsche.co.uk/used/pors...
LHD? Yes I have been looking at those but the price differential isn't that much that I need to compromise on changing gear with my other arm.
Tip? My head and heart say no sadly as that would open up lots more options.
Cab/Targa: I live in Scotland....
Then you wander into the world of something like this which is sweet looking although would prefer black interior.
http://www.yorkshireclassicporsche.co.uk/used/pors...
Edited by nigelonich on Wednesday 20th July 15:42
nigelonich said:
Sorry if my £values and my %'s were not correct but in short a 'vanilla' 100k mile decent manual coupe £asking has gone up about £10k in 2016 alone, that is a fact. The 150k mile plus cars have had a real push up in comparison while the genuine RS cars have stuck high (loads available too). I wonder if its the RS that has dragged the non RS manual coupes up the most but the Singer effect must be a strong influence. Im not planning or even dreaming of a RS copy conversion or a Singer Evocation etc, i just wanted a stock 964 manual coupe to see what it was like for a year or so. Real basic was the base case. I am happy to PX my 968 Club Sport in Maritime for it if you have one.
LHD? Yes I have been looking at those but the price differential isn't that much that I need to compromise on changing gear with my other arm.
Tip? My head and heart say no sadly as that would open up lots more options.
Cab/Targa: I live in Scotland....
Then you wander into the world of something like this which is sweet looking although would prefer black interior.
http://www.yorkshireclassicporsche.co.uk/used/pors...
If you have £60k to spend on a 964 best to buy a manual C2 Coupe from a reputable dealer - they do come up for sale from time to time. That bunch are cowboys. Anyone will take your arm off for maritime 968 CS. That should tell you something. LHD? Yes I have been looking at those but the price differential isn't that much that I need to compromise on changing gear with my other arm.
Tip? My head and heart say no sadly as that would open up lots more options.
Cab/Targa: I live in Scotland....
Then you wander into the world of something like this which is sweet looking although would prefer black interior.
http://www.yorkshireclassicporsche.co.uk/used/pors...
IMI A said:
If you have £60k to spend on a 964 best to buy a manual C2 Coupe from a reputable dealer - they do come up for sale from time to time. That bunch are cowboys. Anyone will take your arm off for maritime 968 CS. That should tell you something.
this green c4 man coupe at Portiacraft appears to offer good value at present @ £35k. Compared to the blue car at YCP in particular. I would be on this prontohttp://www.portiacraft.com/cardetail.asp?make=91_P...
IMI A said:
If you have £60k to spend on a 964 best to buy a manual C2 Coupe from a reputable dealer - they do come up for sale from time to time. That bunch are cowboys. Anyone will take your arm off for maritime 968 CS. That should tell you something.
YCP actually bought a car from me last year that I had advertised for a friend privately in Aberdeen. The car was a mint low mile 997.1 turbo manual coupe and they paid top money for it and were no problem to deal with at all. The mark up they added was eye watering and they had it for a while but I see its sold now or not available from them at least. No buying experience unlike you I guess.My Maritime 968 CS is at RS cars in Befordshire and has been on SoR for a while now. I thought it was expensive at £30k until one came up this week for £50k!
bigunit00 said:
this green c4 man coupe at Portiacraft appears to offer good value at present @ £35k. Compared to the blue car at YCP in particular. I would be on this pronto
http://www.portiacraft.com/cardetail.asp?make=91_P...
I also believe Ray Stobbs' (who sadly passed away earlier this year) lovely polar silver C2 is up for sale. Possibly a tad under £40K but I can't say for sure. Some pics and history of Ray's car:http://www.portiacraft.com/cardetail.asp?make=91_P...
http://www.world964owners.com/#!RISKY-BARGAIN-MY-D...
boxsey said:
bigunit00 said:
this green c4 man coupe at Portiacraft appears to offer good value at present @ £35k. Compared to the blue car at YCP in particular. I would be on this pronto
http://www.portiacraft.com/cardetail.asp?make=91_P...
I also believe Ray Stobbs' (who sadly passed away earlier this year) lovely polar silver C2 is up for sale. Possibly a tad under £40K but I can't say for sure. Some pics and history of Ray's car:http://www.portiacraft.com/cardetail.asp?make=91_P...
http://www.world964owners.com/#!RISKY-BARGAIN-MY-D...
Save yourself a wad, buy a far better straight out the box 911 IMO, and that is a higher mileage 993 C2 NB manual with good history. Better in every way, from engine to suspension. The finest aircooled 911 of the last twenty years of aircooled 911 production.
Forget all the 'more analogue' b
ks of the previous incarnations you hear banded about. The 993 (higher mileage at least) now seems a bit of a bargain and is a fantastic 911.
I may be a little biased mind
........ Though I've owned a 2.7S, two 3.2s and a 964 C2 manual previously.
Forget all the 'more analogue' b
ks of the previous incarnations you hear banded about. The 993 (higher mileage at least) now seems a bit of a bargain and is a fantastic 911. I may be a little biased mind
........ Though I've owned a 2.7S, two 3.2s and a 964 C2 manual previously.Edited by Wozy68 on Wednesday 20th July 21:37
Steve Rance said:
Not sure I'd agree. I have a very nice 993 but prefer driving my 964.
I understand what your saying, but I meant a standard out the box 911. To me the 964 was poorly executed, the 993 far better and little required to make better for driving out on our roads. Obviously just my opinion.Gassing Station | 911/Carrera GT | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff