Matching matalic paint after bump
Matching matalic paint after bump
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Kingcrow

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20 posts

142 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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Hi,

I had a bump on my rear bumper of the 2009 997 gen2 4s and took it to have it fixed at a body shop. They did a fantastic job with the plastic and no filler was required. The complete rear bumper was then sprayed. The colour was spot on and when the sun is not shining you would never know, but with the sun on the metalic flakes are much bigger than the rest of the body.

I was told this was because it was water based and not like the original solvent based paint used on this 2009 model.

Am I been spun a yarn or am I now stuck with a rear bumber that is extra sparkly in the sun....?

He did offer to redo it, but it would be with the same paint so not sure there is any point.

Any advise would be appreciated.


Magic919

14,457 posts

230 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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Porsche started with water based paint in around 1992 as far as I know. I take it they are not a Porsche recommended paint shop.

Kingcrow

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20 posts

142 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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They were not a recommended shop, as the one that is I have had to return two cars back in the past to have them rectified. Over spraying, doors not fitting, filler left unfinished, paint runs and a complete mismatch in colour.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

133 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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If the flakes are bigger then surely they're not using the correct paint....

Kingcrow

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20 posts

142 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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Not knowing how this stuff is bought or mixed, I went of what the tech said. I was told they get the code for that car and year and have it mixed elsewhere. It was not a code they would make up themselves. The colour is spot on, even been on the bumper which is why I didnt really want them having another go at it and getting the specs right but the colour off.

ZX10R NIN

30,525 posts

154 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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As someone who owns a bodyshop I can tell you that most 996/997/991's bumpers don't exactly match the bodywork from the factory, this is down to the way the paint is applied it's not just Porsche most manufacturers suffer with this as the bumpers painted in a different part of the factory it's also much more noticeable since the change to water based paint as is the fact that cars are far more susceptible to bird crap & stone chips.

Kingcrow

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20 posts

142 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
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ZX10R NIN said:
As someone who owns a bodyshop I can tell you that most 996/997/991's bumpers don't exactly match the bodywork from the factory, this is down to the way the paint is applied it's not just Porsche most manufacturers suffer with this as the bumpers painted in a different part of the factory it's also much more noticeable since the change to water based paint as is the fact that cars are far more susceptible to bird crap & stone chips.
The colour match is spot on. The problem is the sparkle, the metal flakes on the bumper appear to be twice the size of the flakes on the body. Is there diffrent size flakes that can be put in the mix or this part has been done incorrectly?

ZX10R NIN

30,525 posts

154 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
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No the paint would be the same formula that would be used on the car so there shouldn't be a difference if the colour match is spot on the compare the finish to the wing mirror or front bumper to see if they have a similar finish.

When you say flakes what do you mean? Any chance of some photos? Also do you have you paint code I'll look up the formula for it.

Edited by ZX10R NIN on Thursday 21st July 07:49

Kingcrow

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20 posts

142 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
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The first picture is the original paint



The second is the resprayed bumper



The last one is both panels





From a distance you can hardly see it, but up close it looks like fairy dust has been sprinkled on the bumper in bright sunlight.


Edited by Kingcrow on Thursday 21st July 08:26


Edited by Kingcrow on Thursday 21st July 08:27

hondansx

4,700 posts

254 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
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What condition is the rest of the paint though? Would a correction detail help?

Kingcrow

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142 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
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The problem is not with the finish but with the flakes in the paint. You can not see any problem on a dull day from a distance, but up close on a sunny day it really sparkles.

On the third picture you can see what looks like dust, but is the flecks in the paint. When the sun hits these they reflect back lots of light.

Edited by Kingcrow on Thursday 21st July 08:33

ZX10R NIN

30,525 posts

154 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
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I'd say that it's pretty much down to the tinters I do agree a detail on the rest of the car would bring the rest of the car into line & the new shinier/sparkly bumper would be less prominent.
To be honest I'd say they've done a good job an approved would be no better there will alway be a slight difference in the way paint takes to Metal vs Plastic it's why over time fading is always worse on the body.

It looks like they have followed the formula without seeing it in person I can't help you sorry.