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Their fees are enormous and their credit card fees are opaque.
Holding huge amounts of cash in escrow for months on end is what is boosting their market value. Faceless website makes it virtually impossible to speak to a human if you have an issue - like additional 3.5% credit card fee.
I really dislike them, they cast aspersions on ethics of legitimate renters, but rather than veryfy that renters actually exist, they just want to get their hands on the cash.
You may have guessed, I dislike them. Sadly VRBO, Owners Direct, have gone down the same path. None of them own much in assets beyond their websites, yet they are skimming huge percentages of the worldwide travel market.
Holding huge amounts of cash in escrow for months on end is what is boosting their market value. Faceless website makes it virtually impossible to speak to a human if you have an issue - like additional 3.5% credit card fee.
I really dislike them, they cast aspersions on ethics of legitimate renters, but rather than veryfy that renters actually exist, they just want to get their hands on the cash.
You may have guessed, I dislike them. Sadly VRBO, Owners Direct, have gone down the same path. None of them own much in assets beyond their websites, yet they are skimming huge percentages of the worldwide travel market.
rdjohn said:
Their fees are enormous and their credit card fees are opaque.
Holding huge amounts of cash in escrow for months on end is what is boosting their market value. Faceless website makes it virtually impossible to speak to a human if you have an issue - like additional 3.5% credit card fee.
I really dislike them, they cast aspersions on ethics of legitimate renters, but rather than veryfy that renters actually exist, they just want to get their hands on the cash.
You may have guessed, I dislike them. Sadly VRBO, Owners Direct, have gone down the same path. None of them own much in assets beyond their websites, yet they are skimming huge percentages of the worldwide travel market.
They must have a great sales pitch,look at the money that venture capitalists are throwing at them. AirBnB and Homeaway have had millions upon millions given them.Holding huge amounts of cash in escrow for months on end is what is boosting their market value. Faceless website makes it virtually impossible to speak to a human if you have an issue - like additional 3.5% credit card fee.
I really dislike them, they cast aspersions on ethics of legitimate renters, but rather than veryfy that renters actually exist, they just want to get their hands on the cash.
You may have guessed, I dislike them. Sadly VRBO, Owners Direct, have gone down the same path. None of them own much in assets beyond their websites, yet they are skimming huge percentages of the worldwide travel market.
smifffymoto said:
They must have a great sales pitch,look at the money that venture capitalists are throwing at them. AirBnB and Homeaway have had millions upon millions given them.
Well I'm not impressed with the branding! Apparently, 'Airbnb is an online marketplace that enables people to list, find, then rent vacation homes'. I thought it was a bloody airline! (possibly with bed and breakfast aranged for you at the other end)Have used as a 'guest' several times and have just booked summer accomodation with them too
I have previously been a big fan of Ownersdirect until an unsatisfactory dispute over a deposit made me reappraise
Airbnb seems to have 2 way feedback and an ESCROW system neither of which Ownersdirect had the last time I used them
We host an apartment in London. It can be hard work at times as we like to do it to a very high standard, the washing & ironing is bloody endless, but it's been really good so far, guests have been really nice & respectful to the apartment. Air bnb is an absolute bargain compared to hotel rooms, my partner & I are definitely going to use it for when we travel too. Our place is currently £110 a night on winter rate & sleeps 6. What hotel in London can offer that for up to 6 people. Air bnb really makes travel more affordable for everyone which is a great thing. Getting loads of people from abroad at the moment due to the low pound too.
JJ55 said:
We host an apartment in London. It can be hard work at times as we like to do it to a very high standard, the washing & ironing is bloody endless, but it's been really good so far, guests have been really nice & respectful to the apartment. Air bnb is an absolute bargain compared to hotel rooms, my partner & I are definitely going to use it for when we travel too. Our place is currently £110 a night on winter rate & sleeps 6. What hotel in London can offer that for up to 6 people. Air bnb really makes travel more affordable for everyone which is a great thing. Getting loads of people from abroad at the moment due to the low pound too.
Do you do the turn around yourself or do you have someone to do it for you?Wondering about becoming a host.
We gave it a go as hosting while we were living in a nice beach house and instantly got bookings.
We've now moved to a property with an extra house and do this full time as our main occupation.
Instant exposure and our guests prefer the Airbnb set up over hotels/motels.
We had a Dutch guest that is very high up in the hotel industry and Airbnb is now the way he looks for accommodation as he much rather be staying in a social environment than a hotel room.
It's the way forward as many big hotel chain operators to the 'room for rent at home' are all using it.
We've now moved to a property with an extra house and do this full time as our main occupation.
Instant exposure and our guests prefer the Airbnb set up over hotels/motels.
We had a Dutch guest that is very high up in the hotel industry and Airbnb is now the way he looks for accommodation as he much rather be staying in a social environment than a hotel room.
It's the way forward as many big hotel chain operators to the 'room for rent at home' are all using it.
My friend uses it to rent out his Central London flat. Makes about £7k a month from it. He's 10 minutes walk from London Victoria and gets loads of US and Asian people staying. He owns another flat in the same building - actually opposite his Air BnB rental so is easily located to do anything that needs doing.
I used it in Paris once to rent a flat, the website and communication was flawless, payment was fine. Super cheap for the location - 5 minutes from the Eiffel Tower. The flat was ok but the advert was misleading - not really Air BnB's fault, down to the host.
I used it in Paris once to rent a flat, the website and communication was flawless, payment was fine. Super cheap for the location - 5 minutes from the Eiffel Tower. The flat was ok but the advert was misleading - not really Air BnB's fault, down to the host.
Edited by ashleyman on Monday 1st August 10:36
I've used it a few times always worked well, make sure you have a mobile No for your host so you can contact them if needed.
there are quite a few people renting flats in London posing as normal tenants then running it as an Airbnb business. I feel slightly sorry for the smal family run htels that are suffering as a result as airbnb hosts don't have to have any extra fire regs etc; a bit like I feel sorry for black cab drivers who having done 18months on a moped are now suffering due to Uber
there are quite a few people renting flats in London posing as normal tenants then running it as an Airbnb business. I feel slightly sorry for the smal family run htels that are suffering as a result as airbnb hosts don't have to have any extra fire regs etc; a bit like I feel sorry for black cab drivers who having done 18months on a moped are now suffering due to Uber
The Moose said:
JJ55 said:
We host an apartment in London. It can be hard work at times as we like to do it to a very high standard, the washing & ironing is bloody endless, but it's been really good so far, guests have been really nice & respectful to the apartment. Air bnb is an absolute bargain compared to hotel rooms, my partner & I are definitely going to use it for when we travel too. Our place is currently £110 a night on winter rate & sleeps 6. What hotel in London can offer that for up to 6 people. Air bnb really makes travel more affordable for everyone which is a great thing. Getting loads of people from abroad at the moment due to the low pound too.
Do you do the turn around yourself or do you have someone to do it for you?Wondering about becoming a host.
Couple of years ago we got a place in London (South Kensington) through AirBnB for a weekend, with 3 young kids it was out of the question to get hotels or anything else and we wanted to "do" the London museums etc... in 2 days so couldn't do with extra commuting etc...
Anyway, complete disaster. I think I posted a thread about it on here at the time, it's funny now looking back but it wasn't f
king funny at the time. To be fair to AirBnB we got a full refund and we were able to stay in one room of the property after taking the cat (that had been left for a week by the owner) to the RSPCA and bleaching the place.
I guess you've got to pay your money and take your chances and just remember that just because someones got an apartment in South Kensington doesn't mean they're not a mentalist.
Anyway, complete disaster. I think I posted a thread about it on here at the time, it's funny now looking back but it wasn't f
king funny at the time. To be fair to AirBnB we got a full refund and we were able to stay in one room of the property after taking the cat (that had been left for a week by the owner) to the RSPCA and bleaching the place.I guess you've got to pay your money and take your chances and just remember that just because someones got an apartment in South Kensington doesn't mean they're not a mentalist.
JJ55 said:
The Moose said:
JJ55 said:
We host an apartment in London. It can be hard work at times as we like to do it to a very high standard, the washing & ironing is bloody endless, but it's been really good so far, guests have been really nice & respectful to the apartment. Air bnb is an absolute bargain compared to hotel rooms, my partner & I are definitely going to use it for when we travel too. Our place is currently £110 a night on winter rate & sleeps 6. What hotel in London can offer that for up to 6 people. Air bnb really makes travel more affordable for everyone which is a great thing. Getting loads of people from abroad at the moment due to the low pound too.
Do you do the turn around yourself or do you have someone to do it for you?Wondering about becoming a host.
Obviously for major issues etc then that's different (as with normal lets).
I suspect it really works best as a host when you've got a spare room or two.
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