Sweden introduces six-hour work day
Discussion
Looket said:
A handful of employers in Sweden move toward a six-hour work day.
Socialists the world over cum in their pants and sing Kumbayah.
Non-story.
Socialists the world over cum in their pants and sing Kumbayah.
Non-story.
Still, it's cool. A couple of recent generations over in Sweden now have more time to remain motionless staring at their smartphone.
Whoopdewhoop!
Jockman said:
Surely it's down to productivity rather than hours worked.
I appreciate the UK itself is below the EU average.
Indeed.I appreciate the UK itself is below the EU average.
It's all about finding the sweet spot.
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turbobloke said:
Jockman said:
Surely it's down to productivity rather than hours worked.
ISWYM but if productivity per hour is high(er) then more hours means even more productivity 
Should I crack the whip harder, TB?
Jockman said:
Running 2 production lines, I put on overtime in the Winter (increased demand for coffins) and I generally find that output is higher (at a labour rate of 1.5x) but the least productive hours are the overtime hours
Should I crack the whip harder, TB?
Make them eat cake, with added calories.Should I crack the whip harder, TB?
Jockman said:
turbobloke said:
Jockman said:
Surely it's down to productivity rather than hours worked.
ISWYM but if productivity per hour is high(er) then more hours means even more productivity Should I crack the whip harder, TB?
"Ja ja vip me harder
So, they are upping their hours?
When I used to call Scandanavia many (yes I am old) years ago on difficult and time consuming 4th level tech support issues, they would get twitchy on the phone in the early afternoon as we were progressing.
When I asked if they had another appointment soon, the answer was normally "no, it's getting dark soon and we would like to go home".
Or maybe I was just as boring as my posts in here...
When I used to call Scandanavia many (yes I am old) years ago on difficult and time consuming 4th level tech support issues, they would get twitchy on the phone in the early afternoon as we were progressing.
When I asked if they had another appointment soon, the answer was normally "no, it's getting dark soon and we would like to go home".
Or maybe I was just as boring as my posts in here...
Longer working hours doesn't automatically mean "better". In fact I can't think of any occupations where your output increases (or even stays the same) regardless of how long you work. Even a security guard whp sepnds his entire shift watching DVDs isn't going to be as alert after 18 hours as he is after 6.
Countdown said:
Longer working hours doesn't automatically mean "better". In fact I can't think of any occupations where your output increases (or even stays the same) regardless of how long you work.
Not sure that was being claimed, but a lower output for two hours, 8 compared to 6, is still productive surely.It's no skin off my pay cheque if somebody wants to work 6 hours rather than 8 (or whatever it was) and their employer is OK with paying them at the same level.
The key thing is choice, as there will be times and places when workers will want to work more hours - than 6 - and be paid for their efforts.
The extra 2 hours may not involve the same stellar productivity as the first 2 hours, but it can still be worthwhile for both employer and employee.
Edited by turbobloke on Thursday 18th August 18:40
Jockman said:
Running 2 production lines, I put on overtime in the Winter (increased demand for coffins) and I generally find that output is higher (at a labour rate of 1.5x) but the least productive hours are the overtime hours
Should I crack the whip harder, TB?
Crack it enough and demand for your output would go up I imagine. Should I crack the whip harder, TB?
Be interesting to see how it's implemented in reality. Does this mean that the morning and afternoon fika (coffee break, usually with cake in the pm) goes out of the window? Suspect not.
Also suspect that behaviour won't change much, at least it wouldn't change in our old group, basically you worked the hours needed, and if it required a 12 hour day, or longer, that's what you did. Lunchtimes you clocked in and out anyway so that isn't included. Suspect that it will mean more hours accrued in the flexitime system and more days off, so effectively even longer summer holidays?
Also suspect that behaviour won't change much, at least it wouldn't change in our old group, basically you worked the hours needed, and if it required a 12 hour day, or longer, that's what you did. Lunchtimes you clocked in and out anyway so that isn't included. Suspect that it will mean more hours accrued in the flexitime system and more days off, so effectively even longer summer holidays?
I would imagine it is perfectly possible for most office workers to complete their work in a six hour day. At least in my old bank half the staff spent a good half hour a day in the toilet, another half an hour "getting drinks" and then a good hour a day just engaged in general chat with anyone who would listen....
Jasandjules said:
I would imagine it is perfectly possible for most office workers to complete their work in a six hour day. At least in my old bank half the staff spent a good half hour a day in the toilet, another half an hour "getting drinks" and then a good hour a day just engaged in general chat with anyone who would listen....
But being in the service sector you have to be available on spec. A move to a predominantly service sector has its downsides. My uncle worked in a factory 8.30am- 4pm mon to Thurs and finished at 1pm Friday. I suspect this kind of thing had largely died out. There was just as many skivers back then though, if anything it was easier to coast, stories about blokes in brown coats wandering round rolls Royce all day with a rolled up drawing under thier arm abound....Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff