Range 3 and 4 Over revs - a barrier to buy?

[Dave B.]

Im looking at a gen 2 997 carrera 2S with a manual gearbox. Its my first Porsche and of course I need it to be a good un.
The car comes from an OPC and has a 1 year warranty, fully checked etc.
http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Porsche-...

However the dealer tells me that it has 2 recent over revs logged in ranges 3 and 4 but after oil filter check, bore check and compression checks they are happy to suspect no damage and therefore issue a warranty.
Would you consider the over revs as a non starter for a purchase or are they no problem as a warranty has been issued.
It may be that, for my peace of mind if I go for the car that I put towards the extended warranty.

Thanks
Dave

[Porsche911R]

no point imo, the next guy will not buy it from you, that's the thing with people taking the car for that last drive, it gets thrashed, it's very common and cars end up at cheaper sales places.

[Magic919]

Is that two recent episodes or just two ignitions in those ranges?

If it's not just two ignitions then I'd avoid. They can warranty now, but give you (costly testing) grief at each renewal. They might change the underwriting criteria later and not accept the car.

[jimmyslr]

It will probably be fine but why take the risk when ther are plenty of this model around without that issue. When you come to sell the same issue will come back to haunt you. Unless it's a huge bargain and you plan to hang onto it for a long time I'd find another.

[lanesra10]

If their are just 2 ignitions in range 3 and 4 then there is nothing to worry about they are errors generated by the electronics as ignitions can only be in 3's(eg per bank of cylinders) seeing the odd 1 or 2 in range 4,5,6 are becoming more common.

[PGNSagaris]

Not a rare enough car to take the risk imo

[Magic919]

Might be fewer of them in Australia.

[Dave B.]

There are only 5 gen2 cars for sale at the moment and I really like this one but Im just not getting a good vibe from the salesman.
I have asked wether the clutch has been replaced and have been told that it has, theres no paperwork available but he knows the previous owner so all should be good.
I think I will wait for another.
Too much money to gamble to this extent - £80k in your money!

[andyglos]

Take a look at this link. 911virgin have an excellent guide about over revs. As someone else in this thread mentioned, single events are spurious entries.

http://www.911virgin.com/porsche/rev-range-informa...

[EGTE]

If you're getting a bad vibe, walk away.

There will be another one.

[used911]

I would just walk away. I have just had a similar issue with over rev.

Just had a major service on my 997.1 Turbo, (2007, 16600 miles) and Porsche refused extending the Porsche Warranty because there is one ignition recorded in Range 5 (26hrs hours ago). Porsche are saying this is not an erroneous recording.

Even 911Virgin dealer will not buy the Turbo because it has low mileage and high retail value, so whoever buys will want a Porsche Warranty. So at present my Turbo is difficult to sell.

[andyglos]

used911 said:

I would just walk away. I have just had a similar issue with over rev.

Just had a major service on my 997.1 Turbo, (2007, 16600 miles) and Porsche refused extending the Porsche Warranty because there is one ignition recorded in Range 5 (26hrs hours ago). Porsche are saying this is not an erroneous recording.

Even 911Virgin dealer will not buy the Turbo because it has low mileage and high retail value, so whoever buys will want a Porsche Warranty. So at present my Turbo is difficult to sell.

Interesting, I bought my 997T (2007) manual 3.5 years ago from an OPC. Clearly it had the warranty at the time and I have since extended the warranty, last time was in May 2016 for 2 years so now lasts until 2018. The car has 41,000 miles. However, it also shows 1 ignition in range 3, 1 ignition in range 4 and 1 ignition in range 5. All at 121.5 hours . Current hours 1338. Given what 911virgin say about 1 event in a range I am surprised they won't buy but then I guess the event is relatively recent? I haven't had any issue with putting an OPC warranty on mine, no compression checks, leak checks or whatever else they do.......

[Pope]

Single ignitions are erroroneous and the Warranty guidelines state as much - 111 will check previous VAL's and no issue.

Once a Warranty is issued - if the leakage and compression checks were required; as long as further entries don't occur the Warranty can be extended thereafter- if erroroneous additions occur - no issue again.

If genuine events occur then further checks as above (range 3-4; cylinder leakage and compression / oil filter and statement on condition / running).

If it's the right car in every other respect and it has a Factory Approved Warranty........