government gives money to babies
government gives money to babies
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cymtriks

Original Poster:

4,561 posts

274 months

Wednesday 9th March 2005
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My baby too.

Mrs C got 250 quid for the new baby from the government.

But we can't touch the money for 18 years. It has to be put into a trust fund, and if we tell em to stick this scheme apparently they open a fund anyway and bung the money in for us.

So they've taken, say, £300 off me in tax, taken their cut, given £250 to a four month old baby and made the money inaccessable for 18 years.

Just what I needed.

After 18 years of inflation it'll probably buy a pair of shoes with change for a bag of crisps.

Just what the baby needed.

Have they really nothing better to do than micromanage the finances of a baby?

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Wednesday 9th March 2005
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cymtriks said:
Mrs C got 250 quid for the new baby from the government......


Errr.....why is the govt buying babies....?

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Wednesday 9th March 2005
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Sorry, I thought the title was "Government eats babies"

parrot of doom

23,075 posts

263 months

Wednesday 9th March 2005
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After the election, they'll be taking ALL our wages, and spending it for us 'on our behalf'.

After all, we can't be trusted to do it ourselves. We're only the people who own the country. They forget they only run it on our behest.

YarisSi

1,538 posts

273 months

Wednesday 9th March 2005
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Pedo Finder General will be along shortly for Mr Blair

JagLover

46,734 posts

264 months

Thursday 10th March 2005
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Election time is coming up

Buying votes with Taxpayers money-It is a Labour speciality.

jacobyte

4,768 posts

271 months

Thursday 10th March 2005
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Not being morbid or anything, but how many people die before they reach 18? Serious amounts of money would be unclaimed. Where will the money go then? To the parents, or back into the system, or just forgotten forever in some investment company's Trust fund?

vetteheadracer

8,273 posts

282 months

Thursday 10th March 2005
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:JagLover said:
Buying votes with Taxpayers money


Conservatives used to do it too

M@H

11,298 posts

301 months

Thursday 10th March 2005
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Do you have to fill in any forms for the £250 or something, or do you just get a letter in the post after you have registered the birth at the local registry office..?

(1st baby due in 12 days )

dilbert

7,741 posts

260 months

Thursday 10th March 2005
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They did this when I was a kiddie.

My parents moved a year or two back, and found the bonds in the bottom of an ancient box in the loft.

Face value - Ten Pounds.

off_again

13,917 posts

263 months

Thursday 10th March 2005
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cymtriks said:
My baby too.

Mrs C got 250 quid for the new baby from the government.

But we can't touch the money for 18 years. It has to be put into a trust fund, and if we tell em to stick this scheme apparently they open a fund anyway and bung the money in for us.

So they've taken, say, £300 off me in tax, taken their cut, given £250 to a four month old baby and made the money inaccessable for 18 years.

Just what I needed.

After 18 years of inflation it'll probably buy a pair of shoes with change for a bag of crisps.

Just what the baby needed.

Have they really nothing better to do than micromanage the finances of a baby?


Cynical ploy to buy votes? Yes
Free money for your kids? Yes (well not quite but you get the drift)

Whats the problem? You child gets £250 to be used in a child trust fund. This is a tax free investment scheme along the same lines as a ISA or TESSA (IIRC). You can contribute to this if you wish, but you dont have to. Then on maturity of the fund (18 years old) it can be used by the child for :

1) Deposit on a house
2) Fund higher education
3) A jolly good pi55 up
4) Pay off debts
5) Pay for divorce of parents
6) any number of other things.....

In fact, you put your something like £200-£300 a year then you can expect the fund to be worth about £12,000 at the end. Ok, there is inflation involved but since the fund is tax free and gains interest it should be pretty immune to the ravages of devaluation....

So, whats the problem again?

JagLover

46,734 posts

264 months

Thursday 10th March 2005
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vetteheadracer said:

:JagLover said:
Buying votes with Taxpayers money



Conservatives used to do it too


perhaps you are right-but Labour do do it on a larger scale

M@H

11,298 posts

301 months

Thursday 10th March 2005
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off_again said:

This is a tax free investment scheme along the same lines as a ISA or TESSA (IIRC). You can contribute to this if you wish, but you dont have to...


I wonder if you could make contributions to your kiddies fund, and set the contribution against your own tax bill (like you do with a pension)

stooz

3,005 posts

313 months

Thursday 10th March 2005
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Have they really nothing better to do than micromanage the finances of a baby?
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whats your problem with it? Have you any concept of the thousands of children who get their child allowance spent on fags and beer by the parents? who grow to spend their entire lives struggling with debts, adding to the £1trillion pounds currently on the debt pile of the country?

whats exactly wrong with giving people a fighting chance of having a better life than their parents would allow?

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

283 months

Thursday 10th March 2005
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Um they;ve taken a portion of your £250 from me, I who havnt got a child, and wont have one.

I'm all for the social state helping the poor and needy, funding state pensions and NHS and such but this is way past what govermental involvment should go to.

Alex

9,978 posts

313 months

Thursday 10th March 2005
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We've got 3 kids, but only the youngest is eligible for this bribe. I cannot express enough how much I resent this government returning OUR OWN bloody money and expecting us to be grateful. DON'T TAKE IT FROM US IN THE FIRST PLACE YOU THIEVING SCUM!

Plotloss

67,280 posts

299 months

Thursday 10th March 2005
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Alex said:
We've got 3 kids, but only the youngest is eligible for this bribe. I cannot express enough how much I resent this government returning OUR OWN bloody money and expecting us to be grateful. DON'T TAKE IT FROM US IN THE FIRST PLACE YOU THIEVING SCUM!




Same as the pension discussion a while back. We'll need to tax you more so you get a pension.

Erm why not let me manage that?

cymtriks

Original Poster:

4,561 posts

274 months

Thursday 10th March 2005
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stooz said:
Have they really nothing better to do than micromanage the finances of a baby?
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whats your problem with it? Have you any concept of the thousands of children who get their child allowance spent on fags and beer by the parents? who grow to spend their entire lives struggling with debts, adding to the £1trillion pounds currently on the debt pile of the country?

whats exactly wrong with giving people a fighting chance of having a better life than their parents would allow?

Do you honestly think that parents like that will let an 18 year old keep their money, it'll just be taken away from them to help with "housekeeping" won't it? And do think they will bother to put much into the fund anyway? No one forces people to get themselves into most of they debt they end up with anyway, it's a choice, not a necessity, in most cases.

stooz

3,005 posts

313 months

Friday 11th March 2005
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some of these replies are a little me me me...

Ok, its of no interest to you, it really only goes to capture the worst of the worst from a life of poverty.
poverty leads to crime, and then it might effect you!

Personally I prefer to walk down the street and help my fellow man, not kick him in the head and spit on him for asking for help.

If everyone followed the examples posted here, we would live like they do in many other countries, where the rich and government has everyting, and the rest have to rely on Aid from other countries just to stay alive.

Your tax is going to help many other countries, would you rather they died hungry? and would you rather help those in the UK as well?

JagLover

46,734 posts

264 months

Friday 11th March 2005
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stooz said:
some of these replies are a little me me me...

Ok, its of no interest to you, it really only goes to capture the worst of the worst from a life of poverty.
poverty leads to crime, and then it might effect you!

Personally I prefer to walk down the street and help my fellow man, not kick him in the head and spit on him for asking for help.

If everyone followed the examples posted here, we would live like they do in many other countries, where the rich and government has everyting, and the rest have to rely on Aid from other countries just to stay alive.

Your tax is going to help many other countries, would you rather they died hungry? and would you rather help those in the UK as well?


What has destroyed the moral fabric of this nation and rendered many areas unihabitable-is precisely all the 'help' the poor do receive.

At present we offer them a choice work hard and contribute to society or sponge of the state for nearly as much money and no work.

Until we tackle this the inexorable decline of British society will continue.