GT2 reg GT02ZZZ any good?
GT2 reg GT02ZZZ any good?
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jjr1

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Thursday 10th March 2005
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Its for sale, 2 owners and 8000 miles for £72k

basalt black with yellow seat belts and is I think a comfort spec one.

So does anyone know anything about it?
How much would it cost to convert it to steel brakes all round?
What problems will I have with a two year old GT2 over and above I might have with my current Carrera 2s?

domster

8,431 posts

294 months

Thursday 10th March 2005
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I imagine converting to steel discs and pads would cost no more than a couple of grand.

You are always likely to have more running costs and problems as you go up the performance ladder. Components get hotter, more stressed, put under higher loads. GT2s seem reliable enough for what they are but you will have two turbos to look after when you trade up. It's a marginally more complicated machine than a 2S and you have more things that can potentially fail or need maintaining.

That said, if you can afford a GT2 you can afford to maintain one. No supercar can be run on pennies. They are always much heavier than normal cars on brakes, tyres, petrol and insurance.

lightweight

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272 months

Thursday 10th March 2005
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Greg Chiswick quoted me £1200 for new discs and pads the calipers can be reused this was last November.

jjr1

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Thursday 10th March 2005
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£1200 seems good I was expecting some mad numbers.

Are there any common problems with GT2's?

hobo

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Thursday 10th March 2005
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jjr1 said:
Are there any common problems with GT2's?

Yeh, they all seem to cost more than I can afford at the moment

jjr1

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lol

hobo

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Thursday 10th March 2005
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I read somewhere that getting certain parts, heaven forbid you should need them, can take take quite a while to arrive, as they come from Porsche Sports/Racing? Division, whereas for such as Turbo's, etc, there is no probs.

Could be complete bollox though, so I will let someone else advise you.

Just buy one, and worry about it later.

I take it the one you are talking about is the one on the Porsche used cars website ? They have 3 currently, an awful blue on, the black one & a silver one at £69,000 which seems very cheap for a 2003.

dazren

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285 months

Thursday 10th March 2005
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PCCB Discs on the GT2 are 350mm all round.

You can buy 996 cup discs which slot straight into the front calipers with a change of pads. Don't believe these are available for the rear calipers though.(£450/500 per pair excluding pads). I know of two owners on PH who are already doing this as the rear PCCB discs are not wearing anywhere near as quickly as the fronts were worn (destroyed!).

Another option is to buy a "GT2 steel brake package" using original porsche parts from www.carnewal.com which gives you 350mm front discs that slot straight into the original caliper plus 330 discs and appropriate calipers (painted yellow) for the rear, costs about £2k including pads, but plus fitting.

Then again you can go berserk and replace the lot with some serious 380mm discs and calipers where you can spend as much as you like!

DAZ

>> Edited by dazren on Thursday 10th March 12:31

jjr1

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It is the Black one from Sutton Coldfield.

As for changing the brakes I am only interested in the cost of changing them when I destroy the ceramic ones which I will !

dazren

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Thursday 10th March 2005
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IF you destroy the original PCCB, the chances are you will not wish to replace them with the same discs. Even after porsches recent PCCB price reductions it still works out about £8k+ per axle (rough guidance, perhaps Guy or Henry can confirm current prices).

DAZ

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GuyR

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306 months

Thursday 10th March 2005
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Exchange discs are £5k per pair (re-using your existing bell), new are £8k per pair.

If you plan on selling the car ever, it's best to remove the front PCCBs, store them away, use steels and replace at re-sale (as I have done). A dealer will not buy the car with mix of PCCB and Steel.

Guy

jjr1

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Thursday 10th March 2005
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Cheers for the advice guys on the brakes.

So what about the price? is it reasonable or do you think there is much room for improvement?

dds1

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Thursday 10th March 2005
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I reckon they will have paid at worst low 60's for it, at best high 50's. I think you should be able to get it for 67/68k.

Does look like great spec. need to check VERY carefully whether its had previous damage (wld estimate 40-50% have been in at least a small shunt)

dds1

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Thursday 10th March 2005
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I reckon they will have paid at worst low 60's for it, at best high 50's. I think you should be able to get it for 67/68k.

Does look like great spec. need to check VERY carefully whether its had previous damage (wld estimate 40-50% have been in at least a small shunt)

jjr1

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Thursday 10th March 2005
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Well they have offered me 61.5k for my base spec Carrera S 1 month old and 1400 miles, so they better have some room for negotiation

Glenn McMenamin

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262 months

Thursday 10th March 2005
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jjr1 said:
Well they have offered me 61.5k for my base spec Carrera S 1 month old and 1400 miles, so they better have some room for negotiation



J,


Why are you getting rid of yours so early ??

G.

jjr1

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I am not getting rid of it unless a GT2 is mind blowingly different. I have driven a Turbo and much prefer mine to that but I have yet to see if a GT2 would blow mine away for fun/excitement.

The idea has only come about because Chris Harris the journalist has swapped his Carrera S for one and that is what got me thinking.

If it does I will swap since the prices are so close now and if it doesn't I will just wait for my 997GT3 to turn up.

t urbo

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Thursday 10th March 2005
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Yes Have no Doubt a GT2 will blow yours away for fun and excitement.

Infact im sure you could soil your pants quite easily in a GT2.

jjr1

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Thursday 10th March 2005
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Well if it delivers more thrills than my bike I might get rid of that as well

seandudding

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This is the second person I have heard of changing there 997S for a GT2. Maybe the prices of Gt2's are on the rise......:-)