Noise after changing the chain and cassette
Noise after changing the chain and cassette
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K1909

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105 posts

182 months

Monday 5th September 2016
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Evening,

Just after some help / advice after changing the chain and cassette, my bike has picked up a unqiue noise when initially pullling away and putting a little bit of power through the pedal, the almost ratchet like noise starts and then stops once your going through the gears. The noise is worse in the front chainring.

Given my limited mechanically knowledge I took the bike to the shop who diagnosed the problem as the bottom bracket. Got that changed by them and also a full service, including the new fitted cassette removed and put back on. Picked the bike up and cycled 85 miles the next day, same problem, and really quite noisy when pedalling up hill under load.

Took it back to the shop the next day and both mechanics are stumped. I'm reluctant to take it back for a 3rd time and will try and find another shop to look at it.

However has anyone had a similar nosie and managed to resolve the problem? It's driving me nuts.

Are there any decent shops near the sidcup areas?

qska

450 posts

158 months

Monday 5th September 2016
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Sounds (pardon the pun) like the crank also needs replacing.

The stretched old chain has worn it down, so the contact surface isn't what the new chain expects.

I did a similar thing recently, by only swapping the chain out. It doesn't "jump" on the cassette, so I'm hoping the annoying noise just stops once it's all bedded in again.

K1909

Original Poster:

105 posts

182 months

Monday 5th September 2016
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Thanks QSKA

Idiot question,when you say crank is that the same as the chainring?

Usget

5,426 posts

240 months

Monday 5th September 2016
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Have you tried to reproduce the problem with the bike on a bike stand or upside down? Wear a gardening glove and use your hand to put some resistance on the rear wheel, then turn the crank to try to cause the noise to occur. It should at least allow you to figure out where on the bike it's coming from.

K1909

Original Poster:

105 posts

182 months

Monday 5th September 2016
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The mechanic and I tried holding the back wheel, while pedalling on the stand, and we couldn't get it to make the noise

RicharDC5

4,194 posts

156 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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I would suspect the chainring if everything else is properly adjusted. You can tell if it is worn by looking for shark-tooth shape teeth.

Creaks can come from anywhere though - pedals / slightly loose quick release / headset etc. so worth checking that things are properly tight.


Edited by RicharDC5 on Tuesday 6th September 05:32

tjdixon911

1,911 posts

266 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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I recently had an issue with my bike, I had a creak / click and a certain point in the pedal stroke, changed the bottom bracket and cranks (upgrades smile ) still the problem persisted.

Turned out to be a loose nut on the rear replaceable drop outs - worth having a check that everything is tight.

Mine even went back to the LBS who failed to pick it up.

As said above though, new chains on worn chain rings is not always ideal, my brother did this recently and it would slipped with force being put through it, a new crankset did solve the problem.

Digga

48,060 posts

312 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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My best, logical guess is chainring.

However, as with the above poster, it is possible for other, mysterious creaks to develop. On my bike, last week a tiny little pinch bolt had gone missing from the non-drive side crank arm and that made all sorts of noises until it was replaced.

K1909

Original Poster:

105 posts

182 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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Thanks Guys, I'll order an inner chain ring to see it that resolves it, and if I does I'll order the outer one too.


AyBee

11,311 posts

231 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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Stupid question - but are you sure you've threaded the chain correctly through the rear derailleur? I know it sounds obvious, but a new noise having changed the chain and cassette...

Digga

48,060 posts

312 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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AyBee said:
Stupid question - but are you sure you've threaded the chain correctly through the rear derailleur? I know it sounds obvious, but a new noise having changed the chain and cassette...
WTF?! Really! You think someone would be daft enou.....

... er, hang on, good point. I did do that, not too long ago either on a new ish XTR derailleur.

boxedin

idiotgap

2,113 posts

162 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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I had a noise like that develop in the summer, I knew I was passing a bike shop so I stopped off just a few mins before their closing time. I asked them to have a go at tightening the crank bolts as I though that might be the cause. It wasn't... so having a good look around they prescribed new bottom bracket as the next most obvious cause, but that obviously would be a bigger job so couldn't be done there and then (and I had a ph pedal powered meet up to get to for the dynamo).

As a precaution, they sprayed gt85 on the pedals where the spindles go in... the noise went away!

Woody

2,189 posts

313 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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Digga said:
AyBee said:
Stupid question - but are you sure you've threaded the chain correctly through the rear derailleur? I know it sounds obvious, but a new noise having changed the chain and cassette...
WTF?! Really! You think someone would be daft enou.....

... er, hang on, good point. I did do that, not too long ago either on a new ish XTR derailleur.

boxedin
I did the same after cleaning my chain and putting it back on in the dark/in a hurry.
Brand new SLX rear mech which now has a couple of grooves in the chain guide...... Took me a while to work out what I'd done when the noise started on the next ride.....

Easily done!!

Digga

48,060 posts

312 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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idiotgap said:
As a precaution, they sprayed gt85 on the pedals where the spindles go in... the noise went away!
I'd already changed the seals and hearings in my Hope pedals before I realised the source of my annoying squeak.

walm

10,644 posts

231 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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K1909 said:
Thanks Guys, I'll order an inner chain ring to see it that resolves it, and if I does I'll order the outer one too.
Does it make equal noise on both?

IME cogs wear at completely different rates.

In other words, the chain might be fine on the inner ring but noisy on the outer - which obviously points to the answer!

As it seems unlikely that you wouldn't have noticed such a different, I would be seriously tempted to pull everything apart and start from scratch before buying new kit.

So pedals off, chain off and seriously check the magic link.
Liberal lube, particularly of the derailleur.
And make DAMN sure the cranks are properly set on the BB otherwise you are probably ruining it with every pedal-stroke right now!