Mortgages: 50% Deposit
Mortgages: 50% Deposit
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schueymcfee

Original Poster:

1,577 posts

295 months

Monday 5th September 2016
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Quick question before I start wasting a broker's time as I know nothing about mortgages!

If you had a 50% deposit but low salary as self employed is getting a mortgage going to be doable at all?!

I know it's a bit vague sorry biggrin Do the lenders look less at the incomings if they have less risk I suppose is what I'm trying to say!

jonamv8

3,288 posts

196 months

Monday 5th September 2016
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Better position than someone with similar income but a 10% depo. 50% LTV enables you to access different products

Sarnie

8,373 posts

239 months

Monday 5th September 2016
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schueymcfee said:
Quick question before I start wasting a broker's time as I know nothing about mortgages!

If you had a 50% deposit but low salary as self employed is getting a mortgage going to be doable at all?!

I know it's a bit vague sorry biggrin Do the lenders look less at the incomings if they have less risk I suppose is what I'm trying to say!
No.

Your income either fits the amount you want to borrow or it doesn't. If the affordability calculations are saying it's unaffordable, your deposit could be £5m, they will still say no........

Hub

7,145 posts

228 months

Monday 5th September 2016
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Surely it would still depend on the size of the mortgage and whether it is affordable? They will ask about your income and also outgoings to see what you can afford and how risky a customer you will be.

Sarnie

8,373 posts

239 months

Monday 5th September 2016
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Hub said:
Surely it would still depend on the size of the mortgage and whether it is affordable? They will ask about your income and also outgoings to see what you can afford and how risky a customer you will be.
Correct!

The days of lenders turning a blind eye to things due to the client having a large deposit are looooong gone.

schueymcfee

Original Poster:

1,577 posts

295 months

Monday 5th September 2016
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Ah that's a shame, thought it could've worked in my favour a bit. I suppose the higher LTV lowers the interest rate increasing affordability.


Sarnie

8,373 posts

239 months

Monday 5th September 2016
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schueymcfee said:
Ah that's a shame, thought it could've worked in my favour a bit. I suppose the higher LTV lowers the interest rate increasing affordability.
It does work in your favour;

- You'll get access to the lowest rates around
- The credit score requirement will be lower at your LTV

But, your income still needs to be sufficient to lend the amount you need.

schueymcfee

Original Poster:

1,577 posts

295 months

Monday 5th September 2016
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OK, that's good to know, thanks thumbup

anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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How long you've been self employed might also be a factor.

Marcellus

7,204 posts

249 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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can you declare past dividends paid as part of your income for mortgage company calculations?

Sarnie

8,373 posts

239 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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Marcellus said:
can you declare past dividends paid as part of your income for mortgage company calculations?
No.

And lenders don't like Dividends taken from previous years retained profit either..............

Marcellus

7,204 posts

249 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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Sarnie said:
No.

And lenders don't like Dividends taken from previous years retained profit either..............
Hi hum, looks like I'm moving no time soon then, in the same boat as schueymcfee!



williaa68

1,540 posts

196 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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Sarnie said:
Marcellus said:
can you declare past dividends paid as part of your income for mortgage company calculations?
No.

And lenders don't like Dividends taken from previous years retained profit either..............
Firstly, Sarnie, thanks for all the advice on here. How does it work if one's primary income is not income from employment but income from investments? E.g. retired but not formally in pension drawdown (as CGT advantages to pension fund assets). Will lenders take this into account or are we just stuck with current mortgage (who presumably neither know nor care whether still employed as long as mortgage is paid)?

Jockman

18,414 posts

190 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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Sarnie said:
But, your income still needs to be sufficient to lend the amount you need.
nono

'borrow' biggrin

Sarnie

8,373 posts

239 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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williaa68 said:
Firstly, Sarnie, thanks for all the advice on here. How does it work if one's primary income is not income from employment but income from investments? E.g. retired but not formally in pension drawdown (as CGT advantages to pension fund assets). Will lenders take this into account or are we just stuck with current mortgage (who presumably neither know nor care whether still employed as long as mortgage is paid)?
Some lenders will lend to you, it just depends on the circumstances and requirements at play.........

TwigtheWonderkid

49,148 posts

180 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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I understand that these days they care, but you've got a 50% deposit, why are they bothered about your income. If you can't keep up repayments, the house is sold and given it's worth twice the loan, they recoup the money owing? It's a no lose proposition.

I think it used to be called a non status mortgage. Have they died a death?

Sarnie

8,373 posts

239 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
I understand that these days they care, but you've got a 50% deposit, why are they bothered about your income. If you can't keep up repayments, the house is sold and given it's worth twice the loan, they recoup the money owing? It's a no lose proposition.
..........because banks are in the business of lending money, not repossessing properties.

TwigtheWonderkid

49,148 posts

180 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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Sarnie said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I understand that these days they care, but you've got a 50% deposit, why are they bothered about your income. If you can't keep up repayments, the house is sold and given it's worth twice the loan, they recoup the money owing? It's a no lose proposition.
..........because banks are in the business of lending money, not repossessing properties.
But people who are astute enough to have cobbled together a 50% deposit are not in the business of getting loans they can't service.

As the old saying goes, a fool and his money rarely get together in the first place.

walamai

459 posts

237 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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Sarnie said:
No.

And lenders don't like Dividends taken from previous years retained profit either..............
Strictly speaking that may be true, but there are lenders who will consider company earnings as part of the 'affordability' calculation. From my experience they want a minimum of 12 months company accounts, but most want to see 2 years. I recently had a mortgage approved based solely on 12 months company accounts (signed off by an accountant).

Sarnie

8,373 posts

239 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
But people who are astute enough to have cobbled together a 50% deposit are not in the business of getting loans they can't service.

As the old saying goes, a fool and his money rarely get together in the first place.
It's not for the applicant to decide if they can afford the loan, thats the lenders responsibility.

You can either tick the affordability box or not.

It's as simple as that, irrespective of deposit or LTV.