V12V for a new NSX?!
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Ummm Honda Jon.... Never heard of a Honda NSX?
"Technical specifications
Although the new NSX is built around a lightweight structure and has a mid-mounted V6 engine, that is where the resemblance to the all-aluminium original NSX ends. The new model has a petrol-electric hybrid powertrain driving all four wheels and a new multi-material structure with an ultra-stiff carbonfibre floor.
The heart of the NSX’s powertrain is a 75-degree, twin-turbocharged V6, which drives an all-new nine-speed dual-clutch automatic gearbox. On top of this, the NSX’s sport hybrid system incorporates three electric motors. The total system output is 550bhp at 7500rpm, with torque rated at 406lb ft.
Those power outputs allow the NSX to reach 62mph in 2.9 seconds, with a top speed of 191mph.
The V6 has a dry-sump lubrication system and ‘compact’ valvetrain designed to allow the motor to be mounted as low as possible in the body, helping to lower the car’s centre of gravity. Honda says the nine-speed DCT is capable of “synapse-quick” shifts and executes rev-matching downshifts.
One of the three electric motors is housed between the engine and gearbox and is said to support “acceleration, braking and transmission shifting performance”.
The other two motors are mounted on the NSX’s front axle. Each motor drives an individual wheel, not only delivering “instantaneous torque”, according to Honda, but also providing dynamic torque vectoring.
Each motor drives a front wheel and can apply differing levels of torque, “enhancing acceleration and braking performance”. This set-up can also deliver “zero-delay launch and braking performance”, the company says. Agile Handling Assist (AHA) uses “subtle application of brake torque to further enhance response and dynamic stability”.
The NSX has four switchable chassis modes. Quiet mode allows the car to be driven on battery power only for short distances. The other modes - in an ascending order of dynamism - are Sport, Sport+ and Track. Honda claims the latter “reveals the full spectrum of the NSX’s capabilities”.
"Technical specifications
Although the new NSX is built around a lightweight structure and has a mid-mounted V6 engine, that is where the resemblance to the all-aluminium original NSX ends. The new model has a petrol-electric hybrid powertrain driving all four wheels and a new multi-material structure with an ultra-stiff carbonfibre floor.
The heart of the NSX’s powertrain is a 75-degree, twin-turbocharged V6, which drives an all-new nine-speed dual-clutch automatic gearbox. On top of this, the NSX’s sport hybrid system incorporates three electric motors. The total system output is 550bhp at 7500rpm, with torque rated at 406lb ft.
Those power outputs allow the NSX to reach 62mph in 2.9 seconds, with a top speed of 191mph.
The V6 has a dry-sump lubrication system and ‘compact’ valvetrain designed to allow the motor to be mounted as low as possible in the body, helping to lower the car’s centre of gravity. Honda says the nine-speed DCT is capable of “synapse-quick” shifts and executes rev-matching downshifts.
One of the three electric motors is housed between the engine and gearbox and is said to support “acceleration, braking and transmission shifting performance”.
The other two motors are mounted on the NSX’s front axle. Each motor drives an individual wheel, not only delivering “instantaneous torque”, according to Honda, but also providing dynamic torque vectoring.
Each motor drives a front wheel and can apply differing levels of torque, “enhancing acceleration and braking performance”. This set-up can also deliver “zero-delay launch and braking performance”, the company says. Agile Handling Assist (AHA) uses “subtle application of brake torque to further enhance response and dynamic stability”.
The NSX has four switchable chassis modes. Quiet mode allows the car to be driven on battery power only for short distances. The other modes - in an ascending order of dynamism - are Sport, Sport+ and Track. Honda claims the latter “reveals the full spectrum of the NSX’s capabilities”.
It really depends what you want/need the car for. For me no way! I imagine the NSX will fit in well in California but in the UK especially rural UK I'm not so sure.
The Aston is a classically shaped British muscle sports car. Its fast enough, involving, a lovely place to be and unlikely to go out of style. Thor and Odin have been retained to produce the engine noise from the Gods. It cruises around in a fairly discrete way until the opportunity arises and it suddenly turns into a bit of a hoon. However it singlehandedly consumes the earths oil resources and is relatively expensive to maintain.
The NSX I believe will be practical, fast sports verging on supercar. It will probably be reliable but it is a very complex car with multiple cooling and drivetrain systems. I'm also not reassured that this car has mainly been developed in and will be built in the states. With its hybrid setup its going to be efficient with a good range but Thor and Odin will definitely be missing. Its fussy styling will however date and there maybe issues with its complicated systems as it ages. The interior looks ok but lacks simple elegance. I am concerned that the technology in the current crop of cars will really date them.
I'm a fairly simple guy and the Aston does everything I want it to do, in the way I want to do it. The NSX would do way more than I need it to do and in a way thats not quite me. The V12V sidesteps the trend and so you could drive it until you die. With the NSX there will be something brighter along in a couple of Years.
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The Aston is a classically shaped British muscle sports car. Its fast enough, involving, a lovely place to be and unlikely to go out of style. Thor and Odin have been retained to produce the engine noise from the Gods. It cruises around in a fairly discrete way until the opportunity arises and it suddenly turns into a bit of a hoon. However it singlehandedly consumes the earths oil resources and is relatively expensive to maintain.
The NSX I believe will be practical, fast sports verging on supercar. It will probably be reliable but it is a very complex car with multiple cooling and drivetrain systems. I'm also not reassured that this car has mainly been developed in and will be built in the states. With its hybrid setup its going to be efficient with a good range but Thor and Odin will definitely be missing. Its fussy styling will however date and there maybe issues with its complicated systems as it ages. The interior looks ok but lacks simple elegance. I am concerned that the technology in the current crop of cars will really date them.
I'm a fairly simple guy and the Aston does everything I want it to do, in the way I want to do it. The NSX would do way more than I need it to do and in a way thats not quite me. The V12V sidesteps the trend and so you could drive it until you die. With the NSX there will be something brighter along in a couple of Years.
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much as i'll miss my mako brother-in-arms...
buy it and let me have a go.
i suspect it will be epic in every way possible.
yes "let's take the Honda" does not have the ring of "let's take the Aston Martin" but it's a very impressive piece of engineering. Bet that in the real world it'd snap at the heels of an Enzo or LaFerrari...
buy it and let me have a go.
i suspect it will be epic in every way possible.
yes "let's take the Honda" does not have the ring of "let's take the Aston Martin" but it's a very impressive piece of engineering. Bet that in the real world it'd snap at the heels of an Enzo or LaFerrari...
Thanks for the replies. Don't think I'll be changing anytime soon (JohnG1). If at all. Just think it's a fab and different looking car to all the maclaren/lambo/Ferrari stuff which is actually getting a bit tedious.
And I was never going to get much support on here, but just thought I'd see what people thought in a non-bias way.
Performance wise, I think it'd be pretty equal to Aston's latest efforts but agree you can't beat "the Aston experience"!
Having just bought this as a 'possible' cheaper investment, I'm currently pro-Honda!!
And I was never going to get much support on here, but just thought I'd see what people thought in a non-bias way.
Performance wise, I think it'd be pretty equal to Aston's latest efforts but agree you can't beat "the Aston experience"!
Having just bought this as a 'possible' cheaper investment, I'm currently pro-Honda!!
all i can say is budget P1/LaF/918
at 20% max of current px + brand new
i love the car. Although i'm sure it isn't one for the track day crowd. But since this is an aston forum not an aston Gt4 forum, I dun think tat's much of an issue.
so much tech for so little.
Thing is, as battery packs get more energy dense, we'll get better and better hybrids that will gradually shift the power from predominantly ICE based to battery based. Still, all things considered, this is an outstanding achievement by Honda in the same vein as the original nsx. IMHO
at 20% max of current px + brand new
i love the car. Although i'm sure it isn't one for the track day crowd. But since this is an aston forum not an aston Gt4 forum, I dun think tat's much of an issue.
so much tech for so little.
Thing is, as battery packs get more energy dense, we'll get better and better hybrids that will gradually shift the power from predominantly ICE based to battery based. Still, all things considered, this is an outstanding achievement by Honda in the same vein as the original nsx. IMHO
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