wirelessly replacing speaker cable
wirelessly replacing speaker cable
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DKL

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4,885 posts

246 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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How do I do this?
I have a basic sony 5.1 system with monitor audio radius speakers. I want to put the speakers in places where I can't hide the cables. Surely by now there must be a bluetooth or similar system that I can connect to the amp speaker connections one end and the speakers the other to simply replace the cables.
Question is how? I've looked at sonos and other bluetooth stuff but as I read it this will connect the system to a phone or tablet to play music but that's not quite what I want.
Thanks

Some Gump

13,015 posts

210 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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And you're going to get power from where?

Crackie

6,386 posts

266 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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Some Gump said:
And you're going to get power from where?
This ^
Speakers need to get some watts from somewhere.....

DKL

Original Poster:

4,885 posts

246 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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Some Gump said:
And you're going to get power from where?
It would be connected to the amp which has power. I don't know all the ins and outs hence the question.
I was hoping there might be a useful answer? Are all wireless speakers powered? Wired ones aren't and as far as I know speaker cable doesn't carry "power" as such.

anonymous-user

78 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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DKL said:
Some Gump said:
And you're going to get power from where?
as far as I know speaker cable doesn't carry "power" as such.
Oh yes it does smile

DKL

Original Poster:

4,885 posts

246 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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garyhun said:
Oh yes it does smile
Ok, fair enough, so back to the question. Can what I'm after be done, powered or otherwise.
Anyone care to offer more than a 3 word answer?

thebraketester

15,563 posts

162 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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You need to get creative and hide the cables. Do you have skirting board you can remove? Or put square trunking on top of the skirting board. Lots of options. Depends on our specific setup.

RicharDC5

4,194 posts

151 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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DKL said:
Ok, fair enough, so back to the question. Can what I'm after be done, powered or otherwise.
Anyone care to offer more than a 3 word answer?
Nope. The speaker will need to have some sort of cable attached to it. Whether it's a power cable going to a plug socket, or speaker cable connected to an amplifier.

eta unless battery powered.

DKL

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246 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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ok fine, thanks.

benz0

344 posts

157 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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DKL said:
Some Gump said:
And you're going to get power from where?
Wired ones aren't and as far as I know speaker cable doesn't carry "power" as such.
LOL. What do you think they are powered by? Magic fairy dust?

Crackie

6,386 posts

266 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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DKL said:
ok fine, thanks.
I'm sure you've had enough of the purile mocking.

In your existing setup the Sony delivers power to the MA speakers down various speaker cables. If you remove the speaker cables then powering the speakers ( amplification ) has to be carried out at the speaker. Bluetooth can send the signal around the room to each speaker but the power in Bluetooth is negligible and nowhere near enough to power a speaker. This link might help clarify things........

http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/the-wireless-speaker-p...


Edited by Crackie on Saturday 10th September 20:51

mattyn1

6,872 posts

179 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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Crackie

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266 months

Sunday 11th September 2016
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mattyn1 said:
They won't be particularly long but that setup will increase the number of cables the OP already has by four. Two additional speaker cables and two additional power cables. The long cables running from Sony to rears become very short though so it might be an option for the OP.

Some Gump

13,015 posts

210 months

Sunday 11th September 2016
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Crackie said:
They won't be particularly long but that setup will increase the number of cables the OP already has by four. Two additional speaker cables and two additional power cables. The long cables running from Sony to rears become very short though so it might be an option for the OP.
Aye, if he wasnts it to sound utterly gash.
Why by Radius speakers to drive them from an amp worth 20 quid?

Murph7355

40,928 posts

280 months

Sunday 11th September 2016
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Presumably the wires can't be hidden as the speakers will be placed in the middle of a room?

If not, or even if so, Google Taperwire.

I use it for my surround speakers and it works really well. I've stuck it to the skirting board and have taken the backing off it so all you see are 4 copper lines at the base of the skirting. It looks fine IMO, you only notice it if it's pointed out, and then it looks like a "feature"/"detail".

As the others have noted, there is no "zero wire" solution to a 5.1 system.

You could look at a sound bar, but the surround quality won't be as good.

mattyn1

6,872 posts

179 months

Sunday 11th September 2016
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Some Gump said:
Crackie said:
They won't be particularly long but that setup will increase the number of cables the OP already has by four. Two additional speaker cables and two additional power cables. The long cables running from Sony to rears become very short though so it might be an option for the OP.
Aye, if he wasnts it to sound utterly gash.
Why by Radius speakers to drive them from an amp worth 20 quid?
While I agree with that particular unit, there must be others!

What about flat under carpet cable?

ladderino

728 posts

163 months

Sunday 11th September 2016
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Or the D-line trunking http://d-line-it.co.uk/products/products-at-home/m... - which works well on top of torus skirting board.

Crackie

6,386 posts

266 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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mattyn1 said:
Some Gump said:
Crackie said:
They won't be particularly long but that setup will increase the number of cables the OP already has by four. Two additional speaker cables and two additional power cables. The long cables running from Sony to rears become very short though so it might be an option for the OP.
Aye, if he wasnts it to sound utterly gash.
Why by Radius speakers to drive them from an amp worth 20 quid?
While I agree with that particular unit, there must be others!

What about flat under carpet cable?
My point was that the Op wants to get rid of cables from his room; the Keene setup or similar will add four more cables.

Flat cable is a good plan if room is carpeted.


Edited by Crackie on Monday 12th September 11:06

paulrockliffe

16,396 posts

251 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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No the OP wants to get rid of the wires from his amp to the speakers because he can't run them. It's not clear whether he can hide wires to the speaker from somewhere else. Yes he said some daft stuff about where the power comes from, but fundamentally it was a legitimate question.

I have power sockets near where I would put speakers in my living room, but can't easily run wires to those locations from the TV. A wireless sound transmitter would allow me to add surround sound where I can't practically do it now and I'm surprised that something doesn't exist. I'm going to look at that taperwire though as it might work.

Murph7355

40,928 posts

280 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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paulrockliffe said:
...I'm going to look at that taperwire though as it might work.
For surround speakers it works really well IMO.

Your only hassle might be getting hold of it as the last time I looked there were only US sellers doing it and a few I contacted wouldn't ship here.

Fortunately I remembered that I had some spare in my stash that was sufficient to do what I needed. (If you want to try some I might have some left depending on how much you need).