Rover, K series etc electrical connector recognition
Rover, K series etc electrical connector recognition
Author
Discussion

Evoluzione

Original Poster:

10,345 posts

267 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
quotequote all
Does anyone know what the 3 pin connector is known as that plugs into the newer cam sensor on a K series and other Rover group engines and where I could get one?

Sensor:




I have the sensor, but no plug. The sensor isn't being used on a Rover which is why I need one, scrapyard search has so far thrown up nowt as they decided to change the design from a one piece lead and plug to a two piece which costs a fortune (for what it is).

stevieturbo

17,987 posts

271 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
quotequote all
Ballengers in the US has a good supply, maybe those pics will help identify something suitable.

http://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/index.php/cPath/1...

Steve_D

13,801 posts

282 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
quotequote all
Quick google shows this


Which looks to me as if the connector is rather specialised hense the short lead with a standard 'Junior mini timer' connector on the other end.

Steve

Evoluzione

Original Poster:

10,345 posts

267 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
quotequote all
stevieturbo said:
Ballengers in the US has a good supply, maybe those pics will help identify something suitable.

http://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/index.php/cPath/1...
Thanks for the link, still no joy though. I think i'm going to have to buy the overpriced converter lead and hack the plug off it. frown

stevieturbo

17,987 posts

271 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
quotequote all
Other option is to solder wires onto the connector and epoxy them in and utilise another connector after it.

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

133 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
quotequote all
stevieturbo said:
Other option is to solder wires onto the connector and epoxy them in and utilise another connector after it.
I was going to suggest something the other day but thought you were sorted
The above option is close but not the best way, if you solder to the terminals in the sensor there is a very good chance that you will damage it with the heat
Get hold of some push-on terminals that fit the sensor pins, connect wires to the push-on terminals and then insulate them with heat-shrink, push the terminals onto the sensor pins making sure that you have done it properly and not ended up with the sensor pins between the push-on terminals and heat-shrink (In other words...Not down the side of the terminal but in it)

Once you are happy with the job, fill the sensor terminal area with araldite as that will seal it and hold the wires in place
You can do what you want with the other ends of the wires so as to connect them to the engine harness
Make a note of what wire connects to each pin, use colour coded wires or number them so that you dont get them in the wrong order

Evoluzione

Original Poster:

10,345 posts

267 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
quotequote all
I'd already found a sensor (old style with potted wires) for a tenner delivered, the hole was a touch tight so I tapped it in gently with a hammer and the fecking thing stopped working rolleyes
Of course now I can find no others for the price, no plugs either for the new type so have bitten the bullet and bought new sensor and converter loom just so I can get the job done.
I did find a similar sensor with lead, but intended for a BMW, price? £7.50 delivered, so have ordered that also to see if it works for future reference!
Whilst the heat of solder could damage it, the pins are also very thin and recessed deeply into the actual sensor body so wouldn't have been easy anyhow.

It's all part of my grand plan to stop wheel spin as the turbo spools up in first and second gear. The sensor uses the rear ABS ring to tell the ECU what gear i'm in and lower the boost accordingly.

anonymous-user

78 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
quotequote all
Looks like the usual AMP/TE MCON series connector:

AMP_TE_MCON


You can buy housings and contacts from usual sources like RS/Farnell etc

Evoluzione

Original Poster:

10,345 posts

267 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
quotequote all
Max_Torque said:
Looks like the usual AMP/TE MCON series connector:

AMP_TE_MCON


You can buy housings and contacts from usual sources like RS/Farnell etc
The one open on Steves pic is, but not the one on the sensor. The lead came the other day so I Googled the part number, it came up with the manufacturers site and how I could order it, then I saw 'Free samples' biggrin so filled in the form and am just waiting.
The other one is a TE, but i'm not sure which even though it has numbers on it! The one in Steves pic has a single keyway underneath, the one I have has two:



The single one is easy to find, the other not so - it has BMW 1732566-01 cast into it as well as TEs number 3-962581-1.
Reading various threads/forums on this there is a lot of confusion out there about it.....