Attaching to a neighbours garage...
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I'm not a Lawyer...
Owned a detached house with rear wall adjoining neighbour's garden which butted up to it. Noticed a large damp patch inside house, went round to ask for permission to have it looked at, was refused. Took pics from the road to see large chunk of render chiselled off and a brick/paving slab barbecue installed into the wall.
Endless woes ensued with disabled nieghbour claiming harrassment because I asked her to remove it and make good the damage. No, it wasn't a party wall because her garden happened to butt up to it.
Personally having anything drilled into my house by others now fills me with dread. But the Neighbour might be accomodating, so ask first.
Owned a detached house with rear wall adjoining neighbour's garden which butted up to it. Noticed a large damp patch inside house, went round to ask for permission to have it looked at, was refused. Took pics from the road to see large chunk of render chiselled off and a brick/paving slab barbecue installed into the wall.
Endless woes ensued with disabled nieghbour claiming harrassment because I asked her to remove it and make good the damage. No, it wasn't a party wall because her garden happened to butt up to it.
Personally having anything drilled into my house by others now fills me with dread. But the Neighbour might be accomodating, so ask first.
alfie2244 said:
Not an expert but looking at the fascia & guttering overhanging the wall have you not, in effect, run your decking onto his property already? Should there not be a gap or something denoting the boundary?
The fence panel appears to stop at the downpipe - I would have thought that it should continue on along the full length of his extension.....although the pic doesn't really show the full details between what is theirs and yours.
Similar layout with me and my neighbour - their extension built right up to the boundary, eaves and guttering over my side access. The extension was built quite a few years before I bought my house. It didn't bother me when I purchased (having lived in a house with a flying freehold), but it caused some grief when they sold last year. I do wonder how they got away with it. Guess they knew someone at the local authority.The fence panel appears to stop at the downpipe - I would have thought that it should continue on along the full length of his extension.....although the pic doesn't really show the full details between what is theirs and yours.
Edited by alfie2244 on Sunday 11th September 13:47
Edited by alfie2244 on Sunday 11th September 13:49
I wanted to fit some fence panels there, but didn't want to drill into the extension wall, so I used a mix of posts bolted to the garden wall, and posts concreted into holes in the ground. The footings only extended an inch or so beyond the extension, in line with my side of the garden wall.
No boundaries have moved since the initial build. Fence et all on my property, deck over existing patio. If anything neighbour and their foundations on mine.
HOWEVER!!! I have no interest in any of that, nor being neighbourly and painting the neighbours wall FOR THEM or clearing THEIR guttering and repairing THEIR drainage.
HOWEVER!!! I have no interest in any of that, nor being neighbourly and painting the neighbours wall FOR THEM or clearing THEIR guttering and repairing THEIR drainage.
21TonyK said:
So, neighbours garage wall forms part of the boundary between our properties. Is it a party wall or all his?
Only ask as I recently painted it (can only be seen from our garden) and want to put a gate up, the post and latch of which would need to attach to the garage.
We get on okay but he is a very pedantic and particular type who is known to question everything.
Only ask as I recently painted it (can only be seen from our garden) and want to put a gate up, the post and latch of which would need to attach to the garage.
We get on okay but he is a very pedantic and particular type who is known to question everything.
21TonyK said:
So, neighbours garage wall forms part of the boundary between our properties. Is it a party wall or all his?
Only ask as I recently painted it (can only be seen from our garden) and want to put a gate up, the post and latch of which would need to attach to the garage.
We get on okay but he is a very pedantic and particular type who is known to question everything.
Ask him?Only ask as I recently painted it (can only be seen from our garden) and want to put a gate up, the post and latch of which would need to attach to the garage.
We get on okay but he is a very pedantic and particular type who is known to question everything.
And here we go...
FWIW the neighbour was not around to ask and while I had the time off work I wanted to crack on.
Knowing he was very particular I did the stuff I wanted to do on my property without affecting, damaging or impinging on his.
Despite waving "good morning" to me as I got in my car today this was on my email 10 minute later...
While working in our garden today we heard a banging noise in the vicinity of our garage. We investigated to find a gate you have constructed banging against an upright post fixed to our garage.
Please remove the post attached to our garage immediately.
Would you also kindly refrain from constructing anything that will restrict the access to maintain our garage to which we have a legal entitlement.
Hi "Neighbour"
I can assure you nothing is attached to your garage. Although not yet finished the post is braced against my property. Not too sure what time we will be in this evening and we are away tomorrow but feel free to help yourself if you want to have a look.
Regards
Friendly neighbour
FWIW the neighbour was not around to ask and while I had the time off work I wanted to crack on.
Knowing he was very particular I did the stuff I wanted to do on my property without affecting, damaging or impinging on his.
Despite waving "good morning" to me as I got in my car today this was on my email 10 minute later...
- ***************
While working in our garden today we heard a banging noise in the vicinity of our garage. We investigated to find a gate you have constructed banging against an upright post fixed to our garage.
Please remove the post attached to our garage immediately.
Would you also kindly refrain from constructing anything that will restrict the access to maintain our garage to which we have a legal entitlement.
- ****************
Hi "Neighbour"
I can assure you nothing is attached to your garage. Although not yet finished the post is braced against my property. Not too sure what time we will be in this evening and we are away tomorrow but feel free to help yourself if you want to have a look.
Regards
Friendly neighbour
- *************
Edited by 21TonyK on Friday 16th September 20:11
Well at didn't go well LOL!
Him on a step ladder hanging over the fence demanding I remove the timber frame I've built. Insisting I've attached it to his garage despite me simply picking it up and moving it away, demonstrating an air gap by inserting plastic spacers etc.
Saying he's had legal advice and grinning like a fool until I point out I'm on my own property, not touching or affecting his in any way. And suggesting if he needs access he knocks on the door and asks, pointing out that its a gate I've built, which by definition gives access rather than a fence or a wall!
I did point out I would be enclosing the area with a corrugated roof and it might take me an hour to take the panels down but other than that he could have access any time he needed it (not needed it in 10 years!)
He then went into a tirade of "we've stopped people doing this that and the other, your the same etc etc"
Gets in his car and sprints off, probably to see his solicitor down the pub!
Him on a step ladder hanging over the fence demanding I remove the timber frame I've built. Insisting I've attached it to his garage despite me simply picking it up and moving it away, demonstrating an air gap by inserting plastic spacers etc.
Saying he's had legal advice and grinning like a fool until I point out I'm on my own property, not touching or affecting his in any way. And suggesting if he needs access he knocks on the door and asks, pointing out that its a gate I've built, which by definition gives access rather than a fence or a wall!
I did point out I would be enclosing the area with a corrugated roof and it might take me an hour to take the panels down but other than that he could have access any time he needed it (not needed it in 10 years!)
He then went into a tirade of "we've stopped people doing this that and the other, your the same etc etc"
Gets in his car and sprints off, probably to see his solicitor down the pub!
alfie2244 said:
FWI I would advise against getting involved in a boundary dispute if I was you.
Theres no dispute (and I know what you mean), he was mistaken in his assumption that I had attached a post to his property. I have not. It's fixed at the base to my property and braced at the top in two directions, both against my property.It's temporary, 4 lengths of 3x2 screwed together to produce a framework I will put a corrugated roof on. Just like a big cold-frame. It's all within my boundary and doesn't encroach on his or touch his garage wall.
21TonyK said:
alfie2244 said:
FWI I would advise against getting involved in a boundary dispute if I was you.
Theres no dispute (and I know what you mean), he was mistaken in his assumption that I had attached a post to his property. I have not. It's fixed at the base to my property and braced at the top in two directions, both against my property.It's temporary, 4 lengths of 3x2 screwed together to produce a framework I will put a corrugated roof on. Just like a big cold-frame. It's all within my boundary and doesn't encroach on his or touch his garage wall.
IIRC, before you deleted the pics, there appeared to be an "anomaly" with his fascia / soffit / gutter o/hangs and your decking butting up to his wall so he could possibly making a dispute even if it doesn't have any merits....good luck.
eta I also believe "disputes" are registered and, whether legit or not, can stop either party selling their property.
Edited by alfie2244 on Sunday 18th September 13:54
alfie2244 said:
there appeared to be an "anomaly" with his fascia / soffit / gutter o/hangs and your decking butting up to his wall so he could possibly making a dispute even if it doesn't have any merits....good luck.
That's pretty much the standard for the whole estate, there are clauses in the deeds for all the houses mentioning overhanging gutters and giving access to maintain etcBUT... I know what you mean about disputes. Never experienced it myself but I am well aware of how problematic it can be.
I really don't think he will persue it, he's a billy big balls trying to keep control of his little domain (ie, the whole road).
Seems to be very upset about something that's not on his property and he can't even see (without trespassing on mine!).
Unfortunately his kitchen looks directly onto a strip of land on the other side of the gated area which is also mine.
God forbid I put my wheelie bins on it!!
21TonyK said:
That's pretty much the standard for the whole estate, there are clauses in the deeds for all the houses mentioning overhanging gutters and giving access to maintain etc
BUT... I know what you mean about disputes. Never experienced it myself but I am well aware of how problematic it can be.
I really don't think he will persue it, he's a billy big balls trying to keep control of his little domain (ie, the whole road).
Seems to be very upset about something that's not on his property and he can't even see (without trespassing on mine!).
Unfortunately his kitchen looks directly onto a strip of land on the other side of the gated area which is also mine.
God forbid I put my wheelie bins on it!!
BUT... I know what you mean about disputes. Never experienced it myself but I am well aware of how problematic it can be.
I really don't think he will persue it, he's a billy big balls trying to keep control of his little domain (ie, the whole road).
Seems to be very upset about something that's not on his property and he can't even see (without trespassing on mine!).
Unfortunately his kitchen looks directly onto a strip of land on the other side of the gated area which is also mine.
God forbid I put my wheelie bins on it!!
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