CE63 TNL Vantage S SP10
CE63 TNL Vantage S SP10
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Original Poster:

477 posts

253 months

Sunday 11th September 2016
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Hi all. I am thinking of buying this car, does anyone on the forum know anything about it, or are there any previous owners on here? Any replies most welcome, thanks.

V8V Pete

2,536 posts

157 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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No direct connection with this particular car but I am an SP10 owner and I love my car. A couple of points:

Nice spec with B&O stereo.

The wheels on the car you are considering are not to the original spec. They are the light weight forged wheels (which is obviously good) but they are in a different colour. The SP10 wheels should have black innards but these are graphite (grey). Not a problem if you like that but I might want to know how many refurbs they've have as there is a limited number of times diamond turned wheels can be "shaved".

You may want to clarify which suspension the car has. Whilst the SP10 is a derivative of the V8VS and indeed most say VantageS on the back, the "standard" suspension on the SP10 was "Comfort" rather than "Sports". If it matters to you which you have then ask the dealer to look on the full spec sheet. Don't accept a verbal bullst answer, ask to see it in black and white.

If you get the right answers to these questions then go for it and enjoy smile

undred orse

1,052 posts

227 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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I used to own a sister car - ce63tnn.It would have been registered at the Cardiff dealership.

Ian_UK1

1,515 posts

225 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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V8V Pete said:
You may want to clarify which suspension the car has. Whilst the SP10 is a derivative of the V8VS and indeed most say VantageS on the back, the "standard" suspension on the SP10 was "Comfort" rather than "Sports". If it matters to you which you have then ask the dealer to look on the full spec sheet. Don't accept a verbal bullst answer, ask to see it in black and white.
+1. I discovered this the hard way after I bought an SP10 that the dealer described as a 'Vantage S Special Edition'. The sport suspension, that's standard on the 'S' (and gives it the excellent handling characteristics the road tests praise so highly) wasn't fitted as standard on SP10: it was only available as a cost-option.

Another 'costed-down' part on the SP10 is the brake discs. Whilst the 'S' has 2-piece discs (lightweight bell/cast iron rotor) the SP10 makes do with single-piece cast-iron discs that are shaped to look like a little like 2-piece from a distance. Cheapskates! rolleyes

Edited by Ian_UK1 on Monday 12th September 15:05

Rapid rental

Original Poster:

477 posts

253 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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Thanks chaps, its got comfort suspension but it looks like I would be the 4th owner, which concerns me a little, so I may wait a while longer for the right car.

Octavarium

608 posts

138 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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Ian_UK1 said:
V8V Pete said:
You may want to clarify which suspension the car has. Whilst the SP10 is a derivative of the V8VS and indeed most say VantageS on the back, the "standard" suspension on the SP10 was "Comfort" rather than "Sports". If it matters to you which you have then ask the dealer to look on the full spec sheet. Don't accept a verbal bullst answer, ask to see it in black and white.
+1. I discovered this the hard way after I bought an SP10 that the dealer described as a 'Vantage S Special Edition'. The sport suspension, that's standard on the 'S' (and gives it the excellent handling characteristics the road tests praise so highly) wasn't fitted as standard on SP10: it was only available as a cost-option.

Another 'costed-down' part on the SP10 is the brake discs. Whilst the 'S' has 2-piece discs (lightweight bell/cast iron rotor) the SP10 makes do with single-piece cast-iron discs that are shaped to look like a little like 2-piece from a distance. Cheapskates! rolleyes

Edited by Ian_UK1 on Monday 12th September 15:05
If I recall, when I bought my SP10, the sports suspension was fitted as standard on the roadster only, and was an option on the coupe.

Bincenzo

2,606 posts

210 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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Rapid rental said:
Thanks chaps, its got comfort suspension but it looks like I would be the 4th owner, which concerns me a little, so I may wait a while longer for the right car.
I really wouldn't worry about numbers of owners. Astons are, like it or not, fairly aspirational cars, and are often owned before the itch to get another prestige car gets scratched. It's almost certainly not a sign of maltreatment or recurring problems. You can always get an independent inspection done which will flag up any concerns. If it's bang on your desired spec and comes up clean on the inspection, I'd be in like a shot.

Jon39

14,981 posts

174 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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Bincenzo said:
Rapid rental said:
Thanks chaps, its got comfort suspension but it looks like I would be the 4th owner, which concerns me a little, so I may wait a while longer for the right car.
I really wouldn't worry about numbers of owners. Astons are, like it or not, fairly aspirational cars, and are often owned before the itch to get another prestige car gets scratched. It's almost certainly not a sign of maltreatment or recurring problems. You can always get an independent inspection done which will flag up any concerns. If it's bang on your desired spec and comes up clean on the inspection, I'd be in like a shot.

I too agree about multiple owners. Mine had 3 owners in just the first three years, and indeed one of them even had 3 different Astons in 18 months. Condition is the most important aspect.

Many on here comment about, must have Sport suspension. I can only assume that they have very smooth roads, where they drive. Many road surfaces seem now to be very poor and pot holed. Comfort suspension is therefore quite hard enough for me. It is certainly not soft.




divetheworld

2,565 posts

166 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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Ian_UK1 said:
Another 'costed-down' part on the SP10 is the brake discs. Whilst the 'S' has 2-piece discs (lightweight bell/cast iron rotor) the SP10 makes do with single-piece cast-iron discs that are shaped to look like a little like 2-piece from a distance. Cheapskates! rolleyes
I might be wrong (don't think I am) but weren't the two piece rotors were replaced by bi-metal (dual-cast/Co-cast) rotors on later (2014>) cars?

Ian_UK1

1,515 posts

225 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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divetheworld said:
I might be wrong (don't think I am) but weren't the two piece rotors were replaced by bi-metal (dual-cast/Co-cast) rotors on later (2014>) cars?
Your post has just prompted me to read about Brembo's Co-Cast process. Clever concept (and one about which I was totally unaware). I've no doubt that you're right about AM moving production to the Co-Cast disc rotors as it allows them to reduce production costs whilst still achieving similar braking properties/performance from the new, lower-cost design.

AOK

2,301 posts

197 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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I will be selling my SP10 next month... it is a 14 plate, 12k miles and I'll be pricing it south of £70k. No improvement on the 3 owner situation (although more accurately it is AML + 2 owners)!

If you're interested, please feel free to DM me.

Slarti650

1,828 posts

185 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
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4 is not many at all.