Photoshop Elements 14
Discussion
Mutley said:
OP, yes, PSe 14 is good, it will do most of what the average user requires. But as above, get it on a monthly trial and see how you go.
(Personally, I cannot get on with Lightroom, mainly as it is aimed at batch processing, and that is about 5% of what I do.)
Conversely I made the jump from PSE to LR and never looked back. Much more intuitive controls and workflow on LR and with the amount of selective processing available now I very, very rarely need to touch my old copy of Elements.(Personally, I cannot get on with Lightroom, mainly as it is aimed at batch processing, and that is about 5% of what I do.)
Like you I don't do much batch processing.
Just my 2p but LR is worth the extra.
Mutley said:
OP, yes, PSe 14 is good, it will do most of what the average user requires. But as above, get it on a monthly trial and see how you go.
(Personally, I cannot get on with Lightroom, mainly as it is aimed at batch processing, and that is about 5% of what I do.)
Batch processing is a good feature of Lightroom, but I wouldn't say it is the main aim. It is rare that I need to use anything other than Lightroom to process images now that it can stitch panoramas.(Personally, I cannot get on with Lightroom, mainly as it is aimed at batch processing, and that is about 5% of what I do.)
DibblyDobbler said:
I had a quick lok at Lightroom but was a bit lost as to where everything was! What are the main things it *can't* do compared to PS?
I was lost when I got it Mike, but watched a youtube by https://www.youtube.com/user/terrywhitetechblog and suddenly realised how quick/good it is. PS will do everything Lightroom does, but PS is (as you know) mainly/also a graphic designer's tool, not specifically aimed at photographers. Lightroom is just Adobe's photo only tool.If you are used to PS and have a'workflow' you are used to, then I'd stay there, but for anyone who wants quick easy results, then Lightroom is well worth a look. Shift+Whites, Shift+Blacks, Shift+Shadows, Shift+Highlights and you are 99% to a really good raw develop in 4 clicks.
Edited by GetCarter on Friday 16th September 12:58
Lightroom is good for organising your photos, especially if you are punctilious about keywording, and it's good for editing photos if you don't need to actually change something in the picture. If you do need to, then PS will get the job done.
The organising bit isn't really an issue for me, but changing stuff is, so I rarely use LR except for printing as the Canon plug-in for my printer doesn't work with the latest version of PS yet.
The organising bit isn't really an issue for me, but changing stuff is, so I rarely use LR except for printing as the Canon plug-in for my printer doesn't work with the latest version of PS yet.
singlecoil said:
it's good for editing photos if you don't need to actually change something in the picture. If you do need to, then PS will get the job done.
This is absolutely right... if you need to lose telegraph poles etc... then PS is the best way to go. LR is just photo development, not photo manipulation. I use both and LR is just much better at easy development of raw files. If you need to do further adjustments LR will open the file in PS, lose the telegraph pole - and then back to LR seamlessly. Clever stuff.For extensive/delicate cloning, yes, but I'm actually quite a fan of LR's healing tool. For minor adjustments (unwanted background heads above horizons etc) it seems fine. It does have it's limits though; and for those 1% or so of photo's I've got an older copy of Elements (10 or 11 I think) to use. If I could only have one I'd take LR for the sheer amount of time I've saved and how happy I am with the results.
Really should make more of using the Nik collection of plugins with it though - currently all I use is Silver Efex.
Really should make more of using the Nik collection of plugins with it though - currently all I use is Silver Efex.
DibblyDobbler said:
Cheers - might give the free trial a go as I know PSE but I wouldn't say I like it!
Mike,I was an Elements user until I made the switch to LR.I wouldn't touch ps now .
LR is soooooo much more intuitive than ps and as long as you don't want major composite type work,then will be fine.
Try it,you'll love it.
PS- I bought Kelbys book as I can understand what he means and found it very useable.
Another LR user here but the standalone version as I rarely need the features of a Photoshop type program.
I've found LR to be excellent in sorting, filtering and processing photos, and there is plenty on YouTube in the way of tutorials, e.g. serge Ramelli.
For those odd occasions I have a complex need such as merging two photos into one to paint out some of it, or to use content aware removal of unwanted elements in the photo I use Pixelmator, a cheap but powerful Mac only program.
Works for me as an enthusiast anyway!
I've found LR to be excellent in sorting, filtering and processing photos, and there is plenty on YouTube in the way of tutorials, e.g. serge Ramelli.
For those odd occasions I have a complex need such as merging two photos into one to paint out some of it, or to use content aware removal of unwanted elements in the photo I use Pixelmator, a cheap but powerful Mac only program.
Works for me as an enthusiast anyway!
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