Cerbera in the winter?
Cerbera in the winter?
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so called

Original Poster:

9,157 posts

231 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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I've used a Chimaera and my first Tuscan as a daily including through the winter in England and Germany.
I recently bought a Cerbera 4,2 which is in for a top end rebuild.
I can't wait to get out in it but there lies a bit of a problem.
(IK, I did write the Tuscan off).
My European contract is in jeopardy after Brexit so I'm thinking of off loading my CLS and keeping the Cerbera as my daily.
Ii never bothered with winter tyres until I bought the CLS and never had many problems with the TVR's in the winter but for some reason I'm hesitating with the Cerbera.

Obviously all the previous and existing are rear wheel drive.

Opinions are very welcome.

TheRainMaker

7,555 posts

264 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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I have Pirelli Winter SottoZero 3's fitted to mine.

You will need to go for 40's instead of 35's on the front if you are using 18" spiders.

Other than the doors not opening due to the ice, and no heated seats, they are fine for winter use smile

so called

Original Poster:

9,157 posts

231 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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Thanks Mr Rainmaker.
My confidence is restored.

I love the CLS but potential circumstances require that I plan ahead.

I really can't wait to drive the Cerbera in earnest.
My German colleagues are always asking what the hell I'mdriving, but with complements.
It's an amazing creation.

The real joke is that the MB CLS is in for another quality issue.

Mr Cerbera

5,148 posts

252 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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Hi Tony wavey
(Did you know Fred Jenkins ?)

Just one thing to be aware of: Here in Luxembourg, the road use rules changed two winters ago such that it is an offence to drive in snow without 'the appropriate' tyres fitted.
Don't know if that's the same in Germany but, as I said.....

p.s. Cerbs become more reliable the more you use them
BUT
I wouldn't think of running one without being able to put it in a garage every night.

Edited by Mr Cerbera on Tuesday 13th September 07:52

so called

Original Poster:

9,157 posts

231 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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Mr Cerbera said:
Hi Tony wavey
(Did you know Fred Jenkins ?)

Just one thing to be aware of: Here in Luxembourg, the road use rules changed two winters ago such that it is an offence to drive in snow without 'the appropriate' tyres fitted.
Don't know if that's the same in Germany but, as I said.....

p.s. Cerbs become more reliable the more you use them
BUT
I wouldn't think of running one without being able to put it in a garage every night.

Edited by Mr Cerbera on Tuesday 13th September 07:52
Hi Mr Cerbera,

No, sorry, I didn't know Fred.

Similar law in Germany regarding tyres and introduced a couple of years ago too I think.
I found all of my TVR's to be better when they have been my daily.
I don't have a garage but my first Chimaera and Tuscan lived outside in the weather too.

Still undecided on what to do.
My garage in the UK is only for one car and my Tuscan is living in there during the winter.

First world problems wink

JezF

329 posts

250 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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I personally wouldn't want to use a Cerb as a daily driver. Too loud, too skittish in the wet, too low and too temperamental.

Not to mention the chassis..

Englishman

2,251 posts

232 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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Well my Cerb is my 'sensible' car and used in all weathers without any problems. It is garaged overnight though.

MADNESS

224 posts

263 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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Englishman said:
Well my Cerb is my 'sensible' car and used in all weathers without any problems. It is garaged overnight though.
First time I've seen someone call a Cerbera 'sensible' ! That's so funny.
If I was to use my Cerb daily it would do my head in, use it for a day when in the mood then forget about it for a week or two.

gruffalo

8,083 posts

248 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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Mine is used all year round and not garaged.

It is also more reliable than my Merc E Class which is currently in the garage while they try to work out why it wont start when hot and is causing all manner of spurious faults that are not there in reality.

They don't make Mercs like they used to.

Englishman

2,251 posts

232 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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MADNESS said:
First time I've seen someone call a Cerbera 'sensible' ! That's so funny.
If I was to use my Cerb daily it would do my head in, use it for a day when in the mood then forget about it for a week or two.
Glad you like it, but the thing is, when the Cerb was announced in the 90's it was pushed as the family man's TVR, a 2+2 suitable for commuting and weekend use with the family. Over the years it has gained something of a more hard-core reputation with the mods that can be done to car. But if you find an unmolested one, it still fits the original intention. Mine is definitely the quietest, most compliant, most ground clearance and gernerally practical of my cars.

JumboBeef

3,772 posts

199 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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OK, it's a wedge, but: 'fun in the snow'....



(now sold and gone to Germany....)

jamieduff1981

8,092 posts

162 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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My 1999 Cerbera's ventilation system is the worst part about winter use. The separate hot & cold streams are not good for winter driving, and mine struggles to keep the windscreen clear of condensation / mist in general.

Other than that, it's fine.

Twinkam

3,454 posts

117 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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jamieduff1981 said:
My 1999 Cerbera's ventilation system is the worst part about winter use. The separate hot & cold streams are not good for winter driving, and mine struggles to keep the windscreen clear of condensation / mist in general.

Other than that, it's fine.
Yes, it's a pain not being able to use the A/C to demist the screen.

Byff

4,427 posts

283 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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Mines a daily driver, lives outside and is used through winter. It gets filthy, it likes being used and only issue is the doors freeze shut on very cold days.

Using it every day helps discover when things are not running right, nips problems in the bud before they get too serious.

JezF

329 posts

250 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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I assume you daily driving folk don't do huge miles? Personally I wouldn't want to dump £300 a month into my petrol tank.

Byff

4,427 posts

283 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
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JezF said:
I assume you daily driving folk don't do huge miles? Personally I wouldn't want to dump £300 a month into my petrol tank.
I do about 120 commuting miles a week, plus any running around for fun.

jamieduff1981

8,092 posts

162 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
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JezF said:
I assume you daily driving folk don't do huge miles? Personally I wouldn't want to dump £300 a month into my petrol tank.
I do about 12k a year in a V8 Jag, and the rest of my milage amongst our other stuff. Household milage is probably 40k/ year?

The Cerbera isn't bad on petrol.

so called

Original Poster:

9,157 posts

231 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
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Thanks for all the replies.
As I mentioned, Iv,e used several as dailies all through the year.
Had a Tasmin with me in Switzerland and Germany, then a Chimaera followed by my first Tuscan.
I wrote the first Tuscan off due to the early year road conditions.

I had one or two problems with my second Chimaera and also my current Tuscan so am feeling a little less sure of them.
That said, non ever had all season or winter tyres.

After the last scary bit, I bought an MB and stuck winters on it.

Now I've bought the Cerbera, I want to drive both the Cerb and the Tuscan so don't see much room for the Merc.

ukkid35

6,379 posts

195 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
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jamieduff1981 said:
The Cerbera isn't bad on petrol.
No, it's terrible. This truck used less fuel when the Cerb was on the back, than the Cerb does by itself.


jamieduff1981

8,092 posts

162 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
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ukkid35 said:
jamieduff1981 said:
The Cerbera isn't bad on petrol.
No, it's terrible. This truck used less fuel when the Cerb was on the back, than the Cerb does by itself.

Mine's ok? I usually average about 20mpg and that's almost exclusively backroads and up and down gears. It did about 25mpg on a 350 mile round trip down to Edinburgh and back last year. Can't moan at that? My XF does 22-26mpg.