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ed

Original Poster:

691 posts

304 months

Friday 11th March 2005
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We all have a good rant on here about the state of the country and the bunch of lying twisters that currently blead us dry for the benefit of the scotes and workshy.

What is the PH collective vision for this country and how do we achieve it?


JagLover

46,734 posts

264 months

Friday 11th March 2005
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The end of income support.

Those so disabled that they cannot work-ie 1/3 of those currently on incapacity/disability benefit should receive more money the rest Zero.

Unemployment benefit will be only paid to those with a work history and will be higher than present-those who haven't built up a contribution history get zero.

Housing benefit will be ended- As a phased withdrawel.
New Hostels will be created to replace it either by building new ones or modifying existing state housing-there those who need it will receive food and shelter.

Using some of the money released by this the state pension will be made more generous the rest paid out in tax cuts.

Those who cannot find work will be employed by the state at the minimum wage-and put to some productive task.


>> Edited by JagLover on Friday 11th March 14:05

ed

Original Poster:

691 posts

304 months

Friday 11th March 2005
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A shift in emphasis to one of positive forward thinking in the Commons rather than the current slagging off based on historic records. You can't affect what has gone, just leave it and improve what you can.

A tax regime which encourages entrepreneurial activity, business, environmental sustainability, the most efficient means of transport (cars) and the infrastructure required.

Look to ring fence tax where possible. I.e. roads from VED and petrol so each individual pays in relation to their own usage.

b17nns

18,506 posts

276 months

Friday 11th March 2005
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Dispose of road tax, toll roads and conjestion charges.

Put the cost onto fuel.

People who use less efficient vehicles pay more and there is an incentive to drive environmentally friendly vehicles.

People who drive more miles and use the roads more pay more

JagLover

46,734 posts

264 months

Friday 11th March 2005
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ed said:


Look to ring fence tax where possible. I.e. roads from VED and petrol so each individual pays in relation to their own usage.


Unfortuantly the treasury is now dependent on Motoring taxes and I think only spends 1 pound in every 8 raised back on the roads.

I think we should keep things at today's level on environmental grounds-Just not increase motoring taxes any further.

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 11th March 2005
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JagLover said:
The end of income support.

Those so disabled that they cannot work-ie 1/3 of those currently on incapacity/disability benefit should receive more money the rest Zero.

Unemployment benefit will be only paid to those with a work history and will be higher than present-those who haven't built up a contribution history get zero.

Housing benefit will be ended- As a phased withdrawel.
New Hostels will be created to replace it either by building new ones or modifying existing state housing-there those who need it will receive food and shelter.

Using some of the money released by this the state pension will be made more generous the rest paid out in tax cuts.

Those who cannot find work will be employed by the state at the minimum wage-and put to some productive task.





Typical pinko liberal lentilist agenda.










wolves_wanderer

12,950 posts

266 months

Friday 11th March 2005
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ed said:
Look to ring fence tax where possible. I.e. roads from VED and petrol so each individual pays in relation to their own usage.




Unemployment benefits to remain as they are. For the long-term unemployed > 6 months (say) there should be a form of community service where "benefit" would be earned but increased. Those who do not participate (when capable) to have benefits removed.

Abolish early release schemes but make it easier to extend sentences in the event of further bad behaviour inside.

The possibility for young, persistant offenders about to go to jail to be allowed into the armed forces instead of jail, obviously they would be jailed should they fail basic training etc.

A return of debtors prisons, ie no more paying £10 a month out of benefits if people can't pay fines. Fines should be the same for everyone, if they can't be paid people should be able to work off the debt.

The realisation that people can spend money better than the government, therefore the NHS to be redefined as an emergency service for most and a safety net for the poorest members of society. NI should be reduced but people who do not invest the money saved into private health care will be billed for any treatment which the NHS supplies.

A sensible state pension for those who have paid into the system all their lives and expect one, however there should be no expectation of a state pension into perpetuity with the intention that people should make their own arrangements. Also, stop the disgusting practice of forcing OAP's to sell their houses to pay for residential care.

I could go on for hours but I think these are the main points

birdbrain

1,564 posts

268 months

Friday 11th March 2005
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Oh goody, another thread for us to rant about immigration, benefits and tax. Yay.

wolves_wanderer

12,950 posts

266 months

Friday 11th March 2005
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birdbrain said:
Oh goody, another thread for us to rant about immigration, benefits and tax. Yay.


Dungaree-wearing lentilists

birdbrain

1,564 posts

268 months

Friday 11th March 2005
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*sigh* No, I'm a dungaree wearing LEFTIE. Sheesh.

minimax

11,985 posts

285 months

Friday 11th March 2005
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JagLover said:
Those who cannot find work will be employed by the state at the minimum wage-and put to some productive task.


now that is a bloody excellent idea

minimax

11,985 posts

285 months

Friday 11th March 2005
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birdbrain said:
*sigh* No, I'm a dungaree wearing LEFTIE. Sheesh.


do you actually wear dungarees? I think we should be told!

M@H

11,298 posts

301 months

Friday 11th March 2005
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No P155ing about trying to be a part of a Euro State... UK money for UK people.

Thats top of mine.

Mrs Fish

30,018 posts

287 months

Friday 11th March 2005
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wolves_wanderer said:

birdbrain said:
Oh goody, another thread for us to rant about immigration, benefits and tax. Yay.



Dungaree-wearing lentilists



LMAO

Racylady

931 posts

262 months

Friday 11th March 2005
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minimax said:


JagLover said:
Those who cannot find work will be employed by the state at the minimum wage-and put to some productive task.




now that is a bloody excellent idea



I'll second that!

And stop companies that are already making oodles of money from making people 'redundant' - only to send the work abroad because it's cheaper labour.

>> Edited by Racylady on Friday 11th March 14:48

Alex

9,978 posts

313 months

Friday 11th March 2005
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Scrap all indirect taxes and replace with a single income/sales tax.

Merge the DHSS with the Inland Revenue so tht everyone becomes a net payer or receiver.

justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

271 months

Friday 11th March 2005
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minimax said:

JagLover said:
Those who cannot find work will be employed by the state at the minimum wage-and put to some productive task.



now that is a bloody excellent idea


Was popular with some German chap 70 odd years ago. Dunno what happened to him, but they got some great autobahns out of it....

birdbrain

1,564 posts

268 months

Friday 11th March 2005
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minimax said:

birdbrain said:
*sigh* No, I'm a dungaree wearing LEFTIE. Sheesh.


do you actually wear dungarees? I think we should be told!


I hate to disappoint you boys because I'm sure you get wildly excited over dungarees but I haven't worn them since I was about 5.

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

277 months

Friday 11th March 2005
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birdbrain said:

minimax said:


birdbrain said:
*sigh* No, I'm a dungaree wearing LEFTIE. Sheesh.



do you actually wear dungarees? I think we should be told!



I hate to disappoint you boys because I'm sure you get wildly excited over dungarees but I haven't worn them since I was about 5.


Thank God for that.

maxrider

2,481 posts

265 months

Friday 11th March 2005
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I'm surprised no-ones said 'scrap all speed cameras and go back to trafpol levels of 10-15 years ago'..... yet