China 70 years late to the 4 engine flying boat party?
China 70 years late to the 4 engine flying boat party?
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hidetheelephants

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222 months

Friday 16th September 2016
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Chinese flying boat unveiled Japan aside everyone's been really over the whole 4 engine flying boat thing since about 1945, even the russians aren't that keen any more. Barking.

Scotty2

1,469 posts

295 months

Friday 16th September 2016
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Think the UK could do with buying a few.

CanAm

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301 months

Friday 16th September 2016
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Quote "At around the size of a Boeing 737, it is far larger than any other plane built for marine take off and landing, Xinhua quoted AVIC’s deputy general manager Geng Ruguang as saying"

Martin Mars arguably bigger, as were the Blohm & Voss BV 222 and BV 238.

dr_gn

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213 months

Friday 16th September 2016
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CanAm said:
Quote "At around the size of a Boeing 737, it is far larger than any other plane built for marine take off and landing, Xinhua quoted AVIC’s deputy general manager Geng Ruguang as saying"

Martin Mars arguably bigger, as were the Blohm & Voss BV 222 and BV 238.
So was the Convair Tradewind.

I think they probably mean the largest amphibious aircraft.

Deptford Draylons

10,480 posts

272 months

Friday 16th September 2016
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Interesting, but ugly. Shame they didn't go for a Sunderland with 4 modern engines.

Simpo Two

92,662 posts

294 months

Friday 16th September 2016
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Seems reasonable to me - an aeroplane that doesn't need runways. The original big flying boats were made obsolete by fast long range jets, but this is not for long range or speed.

davepoth

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228 months

Friday 16th September 2016
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Simpo Two said:
Seems reasonable to me - an aeroplane that doesn't need runways. The original big flying boats were made obsolete by fast long range jets, but this is not for long range or speed.
China's current regional ambitions involve building military bases all over the South China Sea on tiny coral atolls. They've been building airports on the bigger ones, but I can imagine that having a plane that can move tonnes of cargo or a couple of hundred troops quickly and easily between some of the smaller bases without the huge engineering challenge of building a runway is going to be really handy.

williamp

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302 months

Friday 16th September 2016
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dr_gn said:
CanAm said:
Quote "At around the size of a Boeing 737, it is far larger than any other plane built for marine take off and landing, Xinhua quoted AVIC’s deputy general manager Geng Ruguang as saying"

Martin Mars arguably bigger, as were the Blohm & Voss BV 222 and BV 238.
So was the Convair Tradewind.

I think they probably mean the largest amphibious aircraft.
The Spruce Goose too.

Wobbegong

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198 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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CanAm said:
Quote "At around the size of a Boeing 737, it is far larger than any other plane built for marine take off and landing, Xinhua quoted AVIC’s deputy general manager Geng Ruguang as saying"

Martin Mars arguably bigger, as were the Blohm & Voss BV 222 and BV 238.
It is the Guardian. Be thankful they didn't describe it as a jumbo jet.

dr_gn

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213 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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Wobbegong said:
CanAm said:
Quote "At around the size of a Boeing 737, it is far larger than any other plane built for marine take off and landing, Xinhua quoted AVIC’s deputy general manager Geng Ruguang as saying"

Martin Mars arguably bigger, as were the Blohm & Voss BV 222 and BV 238.
It is the Guardian. Be thankful they didn't describe it as a jumbo jet.
It was a quote from someone at the company that contained the error, which is why I think they meant "amphibiois aircraft". Probably just lost in translation; it's unlikely they'd not know about the other aircraft mentioned here, indeed theyve probably studied them in some detail as part of their design process.

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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It does have a vague similarity to some Russian Beriev designs.

aeropilot

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256 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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davepoth said:
Simpo Two said:
Seems reasonable to me - an aeroplane that doesn't need runways. The original big flying boats were made obsolete by fast long range jets, but this is not for long range or speed.
China's current regional ambitions involve building military bases all over the South China Sea on tiny coral atolls. They've been building airports on the bigger ones, but I can imagine that having a plane that can move tonnes of cargo or a couple of hundred troops quickly and easily between some of the smaller bases without the huge engineering challenge of building a runway is going to be really handy.
yes

Sensible route to take by the Chinese.

Fire fighting operators around the globe could be interested as well.

JeremyH5

1,834 posts

164 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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CanAm said:
Quote "At around the size of a Boeing 737, it is far larger than any other plane built for marine take off and landing, Xinhua quoted AVIC’s deputy general manager Geng Ruguang as saying".
I think most of you are being deliberately perverse to allow you to recall large types that have been built in the past.
Which other currently (or soon to be, like this Chinese one) available amphibious aircraft can you list?
Are any of them bigger than this Chinese one?

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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The Japanese have operated these for quite a few years and they are still in service -



Shin Meiwa PS-1/US-1

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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Beriev BE-200 is a bit smaller, but can still carry 72 passengers.


dr_gn

16,924 posts

213 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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JeremyH5 said:
CanAm said:
Quote "At around the size of a Boeing 737, it is far larger than any other plane built for marine take off and landing, Xinhua quoted AVIC’s deputy general manager Geng Ruguang as saying".
I think most of you are being deliberately perverse to allow you to recall large types that have been built in the past.
Which other currently (or soon to be, like this Chinese one) available amphibious aircraft can you list?
Are any of them bigger than this Chinese one?
They already have a four engined amphibious aircraft: The SH-5, which is probably the largest of its type currently in service. It's not much smaller than this new one.

JeremyH5

1,834 posts

164 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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Eric Mc said:
The Japanese have operated these for quite a few years and they are still in service -

Shin Meiwa PS-1/US-1
Can you buy a new one today? As in, is it currently available, as I specified and as the quote meant?

Edited by JeremyH5 on Saturday 17th September 21:00

JeremyH5

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164 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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dr_gn said:
They already have a four engined amphibious aircraft: The SH-5, which is probably the largest of its type currently in service. It's not much smaller than this new one.
But it is smaller.

dr_gn

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213 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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JeremyH5 said:
dr_gn said:
They already have a four engined amphibious aircraft: The SH-5, which is probably the largest of its type currently in service. It's not much smaller than this new one.
But it is smaller.
So what?

JeremyH5

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164 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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So the quote by the manufacturer is correct and all the posts about decades old bigger amphibious aircraft intended to show the quote was wrong are incorrect.
Doesn't anyone read and understand anything these days before jumping to incorrect conclusions?
Answer: No this is PH. SOP.