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f1ten

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2,165 posts

174 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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Hi

What was the official list price for the car 70,000 ?
Seems they are coming pretty close to list price again ?
I'm beginning to get tempted but I would never pay a premium for a car.
My only other thought is a 1 year old m4 as they gave tanked considerably in price but it's a dull turbo engine puts me off

Seems like an awful lot of people not buying into these steamy prices

There is a record number of Supercar ads on here now. Perhaps piston heads would like to tell us how many more fez and Aston lambs etc are advertised versus even 12 months ago. Over supply of exotica!
Means 1 thing ... Price correction.

I might post a poll to see what percentage of piston headers are in the market to buy metal at the moment!

Andrew911

850 posts

130 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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List price for the 981 Spyder was £50459 (ex VAT). Mine has a decent spec & cost new just under £67,000 & mine has 1500 miles & i would now have to pay early to mid £8O'sK for mine; so not really coming down in price yet. And with so few (226?) in the UK I don't see them coming down in price that much any time soon. Although as we enter winter you might be able to get a tad off the price. But these are specialist, rare cars & I don't see dealers letting them go easily tbh.

Edited by Andrew911 on Tuesday 20th September 17:30

Timbo_Mint

626 posts

242 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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They are not at List price yet.

A quick look at PH and OPC lists and I can find one with a standard colour, PCCB and a few other extras, with 6000 miles, at about £5000 over list. I suspect they will start to dip over the winder and when everyone who desperately wants one, has one and those who don't can haggle on the price.

I mention the mileage because this appears to be the main contributing factor to the resale value.

woodysnr

1,119 posts

249 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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List was just over £60K OTR but unlike the 987 Spyder when it came out was £58K and you could not really add much on .The 981 is a different kettle of fish as the extras list was vast .
I cannot see it at list any time soon, even coming into winter months .Mileage seems the biggest factor to the values , mine has only covered 1300 miles in 5 months if I where to sell would be a fair price of about 10% over the OTRP I paid

breadvan

2,107 posts

189 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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Agreed, mine was around £77k list and I don't see them going below list anytime soon. Rightly or wrongly, I use the 1M as a comparator and that hasn't experienced notable depreciation 5 years on - and that was before the current bubble.

wellzee

445 posts

142 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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I agree they are still commanding a reasonable premium. Heck I just paid a reasonable premium! But I've been watching the market for some time and would say decent spec cars with low mileage are still commanding over £80k. Anyone that undercut this at £77-79k tended to sell very quickly - I know from missing out more than once. Almost all the ones on PH last time I looked have been around for a while. Good spec low mileage ones seem to be moving quickly around the 80k mark. I used to have resentment about paying overs, but drive one and see if you can find anything else, even at the overs price that's as good. I didn't. Now I own one and have no regrets, other than not slapping the flipper in the face as he clearly never had ANY intention of actually driving the car smile

MagicRat

142 posts

133 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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I too have felt the flipper-slapping urge but hey - now they don't have a Spyder and I do. And in 10 years' time when everything is boosted, silent and boring, I will still have one smile

spareparts

6,796 posts

248 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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The Spyder (and GT4) appear to be super sensitive to spec. Porsche offered a huge list of options - many of them quite useful in day-to-day driving or desirable for aesthetic reasons. High specced cars demand a strong premium, and for good reason.

f1ten

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2,165 posts

174 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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High spec bollicks let's take emotion out of it
Fundamentally it's s good car and you could live with bucket seats and 1/2?other bits
The m2 BMWs have very few options available for example

1m you are wrong they dropped but rebounded quickly due to macro economics
Same time as an e36 m3 went for 6k to 9+ k in months

f1ten

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2,165 posts

174 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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80k you guys may need them as a daily but for 80/90k there are better machines Albeit not brand spanking new ...

DMC2

1,983 posts

232 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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f1ten said:
80k you guys may need them as a daily but for 80/90k there are better machines Albeit not brand spanking new ...
I disagree. I've owned or driven just about everything and I don't think anything is close to the 981 Spyder for back road fun for 80k. Especially when the roof is down.

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

286 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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breadvan said:
Agreed, mine was around £77k list and I don't see them going below list anytime soon. Rightly or wrongly, I use the 1M as a comparator and that hasn't experienced notable depreciation 5 years on - and that was before the current bubble.
how on earth did you get to £77k on a Spyder ! PTS and PCCB's ?

I think when I was specing up the cars they were about £67k as unlike the GT4 buckets were free.

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

286 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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DMC2 said:
I disagree. I've owned or driven just about everything and I don't think anything is close to the 981 Spyder for back road fun for 80k. Especially when the roof is down.
Elise or an Exige at £40k, Cayman R £45k , Trophy R £28k, Mazda Mx5 £18k, Any normal 987.2 car £28k, Boxster GTS £55k you don't have to spend in the reams of £80k to have the same B road fun, the Spyders too fast if anything to get the best from it on back roads unless you want to do TWICE the speed limit.

People have gone new car deluded mad imo and put all these cars on BIG pedestals !

Any of the cars above will give you the same if not MORE fun for upto 1/4 of the price, and most more fun at 70 mph!

Spyders a great car, don't get me wrong but these cars just like the GT3 and GT4 are way over hyped.

And as great as these cars are you will have more feel and fun in a basic 987.2 £25k Boxster at 30mph lower still illegal peak speeds, but at least speeds to keep you only getting 3 points over a stretch in prison.

The 981 Spyder has that wow factor when you arrive and park up though, but the best fun at uoto £80k, lets not get carriered away with the hype and what one can buy at 1/2 the price.

g7jhp

7,022 posts

259 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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Why open a new Spyder thread?

Just keep it altogether here

mdianuk

2,890 posts

192 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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g7jhp said:
Why open a new Spyder thread?

Just keep it altogether here
Because he's here to stir things up with misinformation. It would have made more sense to post in the existing thread that's for sure...

TB303

1,042 posts

215 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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f1ten said:
80k you guys may need them as a daily but for 80/90k there are better machines Albeit not brand spanking new ...
Hi I remember your silver 360 from driving to cliveden house years ago. Have you sold the 430 now?

Regarding the Spyder, if you take this forum as an indicator, look at the amount of replies to the Spyder thread. If nothing else it indicates the level of enthusiasm for what was a fairly low volume car (987 and 981). It's hardly going to drop like a stone, but like anything else would surely be effected by wider market movements.

I would say aim to buy one close to list this winter. Assuming the market doesn't drop, I wouldn't be surprised to find them still list or above next spring again...

JayK12

2,369 posts

223 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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Porsche911R said:
Elise or an Exige at £40k, Cayman R £45k , Trophy R £28k, Mazda Mx5 £18k, Any normal 987.2 car £28k, Boxster GTS £55k you don't have to spend in the reams of £80k to have the same B road fun, the Spyders too fast if anything to get the best from it on back roads unless you want to do TWICE the speed limit.
If you look at it like that then a Honda Civic Type R EK9 or Integra DC2 will give as much fun as anything on a B road for 5K!

But there's a difference.....you cant compare most of those cars to the Spyder, the GTS and R maybe the closest, but again the R is older. I think its more about the whole package rather than what gives the most fun, if it was that i would just have an EK9 end off, but if want a newer car,2 seater, MR, N/A motor etc......when you start putting them in then you can discount half of your list.

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

286 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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JayK12 said:
If you look at it like that then a Honda Civic Type R EK9 or Integra DC2 will give as much fun as anything on a B road for 5K!

But there's a difference.....you cant compare most of those cars to the Spyder, the GTS and R maybe the closest, but again the R is older. I think its more about the whole package rather than what gives the most fun, if it was that i would just have an EK9 end off, but if want a newer car,2 seater, MR, N/A motor etc......when you start putting them in then you can discount half of your list.
maybe but my reply was to this line which is cringe worthy imo

"I've owned or driven just about everything and I don't think anything is close to the 981 Spyder for back road fun for 80k"

:-) when clearly for back road fun you don't have to spend £80k ! the Spyder is also 2nd hand now as you cannot buy a one new.
So a car being older has nothing to do with fun ! many people have kept the 987.2 cars over buying a newer 981 car just because the 987.2 IS MORE fun, try finding a nice 987.2 S Boxster or Cayman, none for sale really, but there are 100's of 981 about, newer is not always better ! and newer ni on means less fun these days !

JayK12

2,369 posts

223 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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Porsche911R said:
maybe but my reply was to this line which is cringe worthy imo

"I've owned or driven just about everything and I don't think anything is close to the 981 Spyder for back road fun for 80k"

:-) when clearly for back road fun you don't have to spend £80k ! the Spyder is also 2nd hand now as you cannot buy a one new.
So a car being older has nothing to do with fun ! many people have kept the 987.2 cars over buying a newer 981 car just because the 987.2 IS MORE fun, try finding a nice 987.2 S Boxster or Cayman, none for sale really, but there are 100's of 981 about, newer is not always better ! and newer ni on means less fun these days !
Ah ok.........fair enough..........EK9 wins then imo haha.

wellzee

445 posts

142 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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I have a CGTS and Spyder, I wouldn't say the Spyder was worth c.£20k more solely on the back roads (although with the roof down and that 3.8 going - it's an incredible experience) but I prefer the whole package enough to justify the cost to me - including the wow factor as you park up. Don't get me wrong though the GTS is a phenomenal car and if I hand't have let the salesman at OPC talk me into driving a Spyder on a beautiful day, I'd still have just that and be more than happy with it!