Keeping it Slow!
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andymx5

Original Poster:

1,202 posts

252 months

Saturday 12th March 2005
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Ok,
I passed my DAS in October and purchased a Zx6r G1 the next saturday. I've done about 4000 miles since then, but here is the problem:

The more confident I'm getting, the faster I ride.

Seeing 100 mph on a straight was a rare thing when I started. Now seeing less then 120mph is rare, often a lot more.

This isn't good for me or my license!

*Please not this is only in National speed limit areas, I stick to 30 and 40 limits*

What do you guys do to keep your speed vaguly near the speed limit or are you all just passed caring?

Cheers, Andy.

rumpelstiltskin

2,805 posts

275 months

Saturday 12th March 2005
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I do the same thing,strange thing with me though is that i had a brand new GSXR600 K3 and i was always seeing 120/130 on quite country back roads but now i have a Hayabusa im hardly over the ton which is weird,i always wanted to go flat out on the 600 but on this i don't seem to go as quick?Well i do have my moments though on the Busa:-)

DennisTheMenace

15,605 posts

284 months

Saturday 12th March 2005
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You really do have to keep an eye on the overcrowded speedo on the ZX6r it can pick up speed pretty quickly , worse thing i found was winding it up to hear the intake roar through the airbox , then quickl looksie at the speedo and ...OH Sh!T .... on the brakes ,


Still miss my Kwack

iguana

7,199 posts

276 months

Sunday 13th March 2005
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Yip think most of us suffer from this, its why I like un-faired & lower powered bikes, rag the arse off them & still be not too stupidly in the 'go direct to jail & don't pass Go' speeds.

On somat un-faired the big numbers just can't creep up on you like on a faired sports bike, as your head starts to get ripped off at much over a ton & you are a bit more aware of the speed! hence the speedo glances are less likey to be of the- Oh feck Im going closer to 200mph than 100mph & didnt realise I was going quite 'that' quickly variety!

tycho

11,983 posts

289 months

Monday 14th March 2005
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iguana said:
Yip think most of us suffer from this, its why I like un-faired & lower powered bikes, rag the arse off them & still be not too stupidly in the 'go direct to jail & don't pass Go' speeds.

On somat un-faired the big numbers just can't creep up on you like on a faired sports bike, as your head starts to get ripped off at much over a ton & you are a bit more aware of the speed! hence the speedo glances are less likey to be of the- Oh feck Im going closer to 200mph than 100mph & didnt realise I was going quite 'that' quickly variety!



this is the reason I have a Speed Triple! On my mates GSXR600 I found I was doing 40-50 mph higher than I thought cos of the fairing. The Triple is great up to 90-95 and then gets a bit difficult to hold on for more than a minute or so.

veetwin

1,572 posts

273 months

Monday 14th March 2005
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Try re-gearing for better acceleration!! Great for drive, just go up a couple of teeth on the rear or down one on the front (equates to 3 on rear) and presto, too annoying to travel at high speed because of engine noise and big smiles with all the low down power. Great for wheelieing on those private runways etc.!!

Just picked mine up on Saturday after the service with the new rear sprocket and bloody hell, it goes like stink. Top end is just not an issue any more.

Mad Dave

7,158 posts

279 months

Monday 14th March 2005
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I just check out every layby, car etc looking for coppers - that also means I can't welly it everywhere for fear of losing my license!

racefan_uk

2,935 posts

272 months

Monday 14th March 2005
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Mad Dave said:
I just check out every layby, car etc looking for coppers - that also means I can't welly it everywhere for fear of losing my license!



It's only a matter of time then Dave!

caduceus

6,110 posts

282 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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veetwin said:
Try re-gearing for better acceleration!! Great for drive, just go up a couple of teeth on the rear or down one on the front (equates to 3 on rear) and presto, too annoying to travel at high speed because of engine noise and big smiles with all the low down power. Great for wheelieing on those private runways etc.!!

Just picked mine up on Saturday after the service with the new rear sprocket and bloody hell, it goes like stink. Top end is just not an issue any more.


What a good idea!

How hard, how long a job is this?

bennyboysvuk

3,494 posts

264 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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Andy, I don't think there's a cure for this. You've been bitten by the bug. The only thing that will temporarily slow you down is a pull for speeding, but you'll soon forget that and resume normal (ton plus) speeds.

Caduceus, going up a tooth on the rear sprocket is cheap and easy and will be quite noticeable. It should't require lengthening of the chain, you'll just need to adjust it a little.

andymx5

Original Poster:

1,202 posts

252 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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Ah,

So the choices are:

1. Sell the bike (Boo! hiss!)

2. Buy a 125 (I did my DAS for a reason....)

3. Get a Speed triple

4. Gear my bike for acceleration...

rooster

2,241 posts

253 months

Friday 25th March 2005
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andymx5 said:
Ah,

So the choices are:

<snip>
3. Get a Speed triple

4. Gear my bike for acceleration...

Yep.. Did my DAS 2 years+ ago and bought the Strom. I do 35K miles annually, 2K of them in 4 wheels. Then bought an old shaftie for winter hacking. Then got the chipped and EXTREMELY modified Busa with the special paint etc etc etc. Severe poopy pants everytime I looked at the speedo. The fairing etc really damps the impression of speed. I recently bought an elderly Speed Triple to complement the others. I utterly love it to bits. It just feels right. Difficult to explain, but the British thing plus the sound and experience are beyond teh high speed adrenalin rush that underpins the sentiments you expressed in the original post. Beside the Strom and the Triple, the Busa seems somehow irrelevant. Unless I am at "go to jail" speeds, it doesnt work.
Try the Triple. Perhaps it will work for you.
Robert. Sorry, nicked the strife's PH login.

tycho

11,983 posts

289 months

Saturday 26th March 2005
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rooster said:

andymx5 said:
Ah,

So the choices are:

<snip>
3. Get a Speed triple

4. Gear my bike for acceleration...


Yep.. Did my DAS 2 years+ ago and bought the Strom. I do 35K miles annually, 2K of them in 4 wheels. Then bought an old shaftie for winter hacking. Then got the chipped and EXTREMELY modified Busa with the special paint etc etc etc. Severe poopy pants everytime I looked at the speedo. The fairing etc really damps the impression of speed. I recently bought an elderly Speed Triple to complement the others. I utterly love it to bits. It just feels right. Difficult to explain, but the British thing plus the sound and experience are beyond teh high speed adrenalin rush that underpins the sentiments you expressed in the original post. Beside the Strom and the Triple, the Busa seems somehow irrelevant. Unless I am at "go to jail" speeds, it doesnt work.
Try the Triple. Perhaps it will work for you.
Robert. Sorry, nicked the strife's PH login.



what year and colour is your Triple?

rooster

2,241 posts

253 months

Monday 28th March 2005
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Tycho, it is actually a Sprint895 95 N with 36K on it. 1 Owner. It hasnt been used for nearly 5 years. The last tax expired 7/00.
Took it out at the weekend and it was just lovely. I know it is a bit topheavy but for all intents and purposes it doesnt really matter.
It is all a matter of relaxing into "what am I riding right now". Not sure the mutterings help. I guess it is all just too damned personal.

It is BRG, and apart from the neglected alloy surfaces, it is pristine.

Rob



>> Edited by rooster on Monday 28th March 22:41

tycho

11,983 posts

289 months

Tuesday 29th March 2005
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rooster said:
Tycho, it is actually a Sprint895 95 N with 36K on it. 1 Owner. It hasnt been used for nearly 5 years. The last tax expired 7/00.
Took it out at the weekend and it was just lovely. I know it is a bit topheavy but for all intents and purposes it doesnt really matter.
It is all a matter of relaxing into "what am I riding right now". Not sure the mutterings help. I guess it is all just too damned personal.

It is BRG, and apart from the neglected alloy surfaces, it is pristine.

Rob



>> Edited by rooster on Monday 28th March 22:41


Cool, mine is a 95 N too. Fireball Orange with 42K on the clock. I love it. As you said, it is a bit top heavy. I dropped it twice in the first fortnight since I changed from a GPz500. They sound so good with race cans on. It needs bit of attention around the plastics but other than that, she is sweet.

veetwin

1,572 posts

273 months

Tuesday 29th March 2005
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Renthal rear sprocket should be around £25 and a new chain arond £50. You should be able to get the whole lot fitted for around £100. Mine was more expensive as the Duke has a sprocket carrier which costs extra. Bloody great when it is done as the bike has improved when around town and carrying pillions.

tycho

11,983 posts

289 months

Tuesday 29th March 2005
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veetwin said:
Renthal rear sprocket should be around £25 and a new chain arond £50. You should be able to get the whole lot fitted for around £100. Mine was more expensive as the Duke has a sprocket carrier which costs extra. Bloody great when it is done as the bike has improved when around town and carrying pillions.


They do a kit with both for about £5 less. The chain can be a pig to get off and you may need an angle grinder. The rear sprocket should be fairly easy to do though.

Andymx5

Original Poster:

1,202 posts

252 months

Wednesday 30th March 2005
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rooster said:


Yep.. Did my DAS 2 years+ ago and bought the Strom. I do 35K miles annually, 2K of them in 4 wheels. Then bought an old shaftie for winter hacking. Then got the chipped and EXTREMELY modified Busa with the special paint etc etc etc. Severe poopy pants everytime I looked at the speedo. The fairing etc really damps the impression of speed. I recently bought an elderly Speed Triple to complement the others. I utterly love it to bits. It just feels right. Difficult to explain, but the British thing plus the sound and experience are beyond teh high speed adrenalin rush that underpins the sentiments you expressed in the original post. Beside the Strom and the Triple, the Busa seems somehow irrelevant. Unless I am at "go to jail" speeds, it doesnt work.
Try the Triple. Perhaps it will work for you.
Robert. Sorry, nicked the strife's PH login.


Sorry this is out of topic (on my own topic no less!) but how do you insure so many bikes? Do you have to pay a standard premium per bike or can you insure them all under one policy?

robertlee

27 posts

281 months

Saturday 2nd April 2005
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Andymx5 said:

[quote=rooster]

Yep.. Did my DAS <snip>quote]
<snip>how do you insure so many bikes? <snip>


Many of the major insurers offer multibike policies (4 in my case). Through Devitt and Carole Nash for example, I got the whole lot for just over £500 fully comp (no points). Overjoyed with the premium with just 2YNCD. Came with sliding scale excess up to £500 for the Busa. Declared everything including 35K annual miles, and Equity Red Star came out cheapest. Have no idea how good bad, or indifferent they would be in event of a claim. Rob

blindsteviemac

2 posts

244 months

Sunday 3rd April 2005
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I used Carol Nash/Equity Red Star for my four as well, seemed to be the best price and I've used ERS before for my classic insurances.

(Blade/Z1B/GasGas/Vincent)

Un-faired bikes are definitely more license friendly!

Steve.