Winter storage format
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vpr

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3,927 posts

267 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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I generally leave my cars all winter without starting though I do like to roll the tyres if possible but not always.

Some people are intent on running them up to temperature sometimes twice a month. I always thought this could do more harm than good what with all the condensation etc.

Then there's the issue with our crap modern fuel which we all know about.

So what do you guys do if you don't run them through the salt ridden winter months?

Riley Blue

23,205 posts

255 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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October-ish, drive car into garage, lock garage door.

March-ish, unlock garage door, drive car.

Jim AK

4,029 posts

153 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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Mine sits in the garage, tyres up from 28 psi to 45 psi but checked every time I move it, battery disconnected & left on a conditioner but reconnected once every 6 weeks & I let it run for an hour or so, I run the tank low before I store it & put a gallon in each time. I go through the gears & just go back & forth on the drive.

Been doing this for 5 years & it's never given any issues.

No doubt shortly someone will be along to tell me I'm doing nothing right!

Mark A S

2,091 posts

217 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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And what would be wrong in taking your classic for a drive through the winter on dry sunny days ?

mickyveloce

1,035 posts

265 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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All suggestions sensible so far. I garage two Mercs over winter (Octoberish to Marchish is pretty much spot on.

I pump up the tyres and disconnect the batteries. I don't start them at all, as this just aggravated condensation issues, and I make sure they get put away clean, bone dry and polished before the covers go on.

Even on nice days, the residual salt (thrown around unnecessarily in most cases) would still coat the cars in corrosive white residue, so I resist temptation.

The by-product is that the novelty of hopping into a much-missed car is very pleasant on a crisp Spring morning.

Allan L

799 posts

134 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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I have no formal winter procedure as in principle the cars are ready to go if required. I try to use one for VSCC New Year's Day gatherings if nothing more.
Only excepting that, as I don't trust the cooling system of the 1912 Mors to retain antifreeze, I drain it. As I hardly use the Mors these days the tyres often have to be inflated before use, and although they can get a little D-shaped, once they've been inflated to their normal 60-65 p.s.i. all is well!
As I've written in the fuel thread, there is no fuel-based problem in starting either of the old 'uns after some months without fresh fuel.

vpr

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3,927 posts

267 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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Agreed, salt residue in the form of dust hangs around for ever. Not a chance of using many of them,hate the stuff

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Battery on trickle
Tyres pumped up
Handbrake off
Fuel preservative and full tank
Drive whenever sunny smile
Never had an issue

1962

131 posts

204 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Tyres up to 3bar (stop flat spot) easier to roll

Battery conditioner on (check cells do not dry out)

Half tank of fuel

Car cover

If you do decide to start, crank engine over plenty to get oil pressure up and into galleries

tortop45

434 posts

189 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Yes salt is the anti christ of cars and must not get on to your pride and joy at all costs so make sure its washed of.I run my classics up all winter long and keep them dry for the next year with no problems.....

TR4man

5,526 posts

203 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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November to March


Sillyhatday

441 posts

128 months

Wednesday 5th October 2016
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I'm glad this came up. It's my first winter owning a classic. I'd not thought about Tyre deformation from prolonged sitting, I think I'll stick with rotating the wheels periodically.

I thought I would make sure the engine oil is fresh before leaving to sit. I would hope that it leaves a film of oil behind on all surfaces for corrosion protection. Fresh oil can't hurt.

I'll be working on the engine and suspension this winter. So I needn't worry too much this year

Vintage Racer

630 posts

174 months

Thursday 6th October 2016
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October to May..............car in Carcoon and dehumidifier running in garage to protect car, tools etc


dancarro

75 posts

200 months

Monday 10th October 2016
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I DREAM of having a garage. I have left my Alfa Spider on the drive for the last 8x years (albeit under a great cover) and never had any problems, even with new corrosion or restarting issues. It is usually from mid October to March and it always has an oil change prior to the rest up mind you.

I never put it away damp and park it up out of gear with the handbrake off.

Fuel is at whatever level i have when i park it up, and i check the tyre pressures are maxed.

The only must is I always disconnect the battery otherwise this goes flat.

But come the summer (so far) i connect the battery and after checking fluids and letting it heat right through, it just goes again. I admit upon reading this i've obviously been bl00dy lucky...

markbigears

2,485 posts

298 months

Tuesday 11th October 2016
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I start mine every week for a min or 2 to keep the engine lubricated. Back it out of the garage, reverse up the drive, on the way back, go up through the gearbox. Also turn indicators, windows and any electric motors, to stop corrosion. Not sure i'd like to let the engine sit for months without turning over, dry bores etc. Thoughts?
I've always wondered what the Classic storage boys do.



Edited by markbigears on Tuesday 11th October 13:26

aeropilot

40,531 posts

256 months

Tuesday 11th October 2016
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vpr said:
I generally leave my cars all winter without starting though I do like to roll the tyres if possible but not always.

Some people are intent on running them up to temperature sometimes twice a month. I always thought this could do more harm than good what with all the condensation etc.

Then there's the issue with our crap modern fuel which we all know about.

So what do you guys do if you don't run them through the salt ridden winter months?
What I used to do with my Sunbeam-Lotus (and will do with the '32 Ford) is drive it as much as possible.
I used to aim to give the Sunbeam a 30+ miles drive at least once a month during the winter months as long as there wasn't a shed load of salt on the road. If it was a dry day, and no salt had gone down for a week or so, I'd give it a run.
Over the 16 years I owned the car, I pretty much managed to do this without too long a break. I'd certainly say, I'd get at least 3 drives in it to keep everything ticking over during winter.

podman

9,078 posts

269 months

Tuesday 11th October 2016
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markbigears said:
I start mine every week for a min or 2 to keep the engine lubricated. Back it out of the garage, reverse up the drive, on the way back, go up through the gearbox. Also turn indicators, windows and any electric motors, to stop corrosion. Not sure i'd like to let the engine sit for months without turning over, dry bores etc. Thoughts?
I've always wondered what the Classic storage boys do.



Edited by markbigears on Tuesday 11th October 13:26
Chap I bought a bike from a few years back did exactly that, fired it up every 2 weeks until the fan kicked in

As the bike/car cools down in your garage, it attracts moisture to it, which condenses, pools and then sits in the engine, working its way into other areas where even a direct spray of water wouldnt.

It just enhances the whole corrosion process..We all know most engine wear occurs on start up, my thinking is why start it unless your going to use it?





The classic car storage specialists will do exactly what you want, you just have to pay for it, most of the good ones will have a menu on their website.

I whip the plugs out (of my classic bikes) and inject some oil down the bores with a syringe.

vpr

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3,927 posts

267 months

Tuesday 11th October 2016
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Spot on Podman

Not only this but constant running on choke and you'll get bore wash and your oil will become useless

Yertis

19,707 posts

295 months

Wednesday 12th October 2016
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I feel like a complete philistine – drive mine all year round. Admittedly a bit less for the TR in winter when it's cold, but I'm putting a new RTR heater in soon to sort that.

Brum_Brum

550 posts

252 months

Wednesday 12th October 2016
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Do any of you drain the fuel tank? The chap that set my webers up on the Escort said to do that, then run the engine to use what's left in the pipe.