Sump sealing/mastic
Sump sealing/mastic
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anonymous-user

Original Poster:

84 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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So I am replacing the sump on a TVR Speed 6 engine.
What is the difference between Loctite 598 and 5980 ?
I have done the usual searches cant really find the answer

Thanks

tapkaJohnD

2,000 posts

234 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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http://docs-europe.electrocomponents.com/webdocs/0...

http://www.hitek-ltd.co.uk/media/downloads/8237/Lo...

Do those help?

And does the engine have a pressed steel sump? If leaks have been a problem, then more imortant that the right sealant is ensuring that the sealing face is flat around the bolt holes,as the DPO will have overtightened them. Use a straight edge and strong light to inspect, and if the bolt holes are domed in, a stout post and light hammer to flatten until the face is straight.

Then almost any sealant, or none, if you are confident in a good gasket, will do the job. If you must, Hylomar. You can get it as an aerosol, which makes a thin, even layer easy to achieve.

John

HustleRussell

26,608 posts

190 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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tapkaJohnD said:
does the engine have a pressed steel sump? If leaks have been a problem, then more imortant that the right sealant is ensuring that the sealing face is flat around the bolt holes,as the DPO will have overtightened them. Use a straight edge and strong light to inspect, and if the bolt holes are domed in, a stout post and light hammer to flatten until the face is straight.
Thanks, I've learned something today.

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

228 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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Lots of cars now use ordinary RTV silicone. Used it on a couple with no problems.

Boosted LS1

21,200 posts

290 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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I use 5980 from Halfords. It's excellent and resists higher temps.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

84 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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tapkaJohnD said:
http://docs-europe.electrocomponents.com/webdocs/0...

http://www.hitek-ltd.co.uk/media/downloads/8237/Lo...

Do those help?

And does the engine have a pressed steel sump? If leaks have been a problem, then more imortant that the right sealant is ensuring that the sealing face is flat around the bolt holes,as the DPO will have overtightened them. Use a straight edge and strong light to inspect, and if the bolt holes are domed in, a stout post and light hammer to flatten until the face is straight.

Then almost any sealant, or none, if you are confident in a good gasket, will do the job. If you must, Hylomar. You can get it as an aerosol, which makes a thin, even layer easy to achieve.

John
Thanks for posting these, I am not sure it does help. It basically says 598 is different from 5980 ? The sump is cast ally and the block is ally. It says 5980 is an adhesive ..

Thanks for posting anyway




99hjhm

436 posts

216 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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Get some Threebond 1215. If it's good enough for Prodrive race engines....

Belle427

11,987 posts

263 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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The 5980 linked to is a very good product perfect for this application.
Im guessing that there isnt much difference between the 5980 and 598, probably they have added a few more pounds for removing a 0!

one eyed mick

1,189 posts

191 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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The only thing is do not use too much !it all goes to snot in hot oil and finds oil ways to go to sleep in !