Speeding officer will not be fined
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Speeding officer will not be fined
A police officer who admitted speeding in a 40mph zone will not be fined, say senior officers.
The unnamed woman officer was challenged by two members of the public who witnessed her breaking the speed limit in a marked police car.
Despite admitting to her bosses that she was speeding the woman officer will not receive the usual £60 fine and three penalty points on her licence.
The offence was reported by Roger Jones, of Beatrice Road, Kettering, who was overtaken by the police driver as she sped through roadworks on the A6003 between Kettering and Corby on February 27.
At the time he said: "I am not trying to pick on an individual officer, but I believe if it were a member of the public caught it would be a different story."
After reading the story, Haydn Edwards, of Derling Drive, Raunds, said: "Chief Insp Jim Doran was quoted as saying 'while accepting she was speeding'. Can we be assured by him that the driver will be receiving a £60 fine and a three-point endorsement on her licence?"
And Valerie Stirmey, of Gotch Road, Barton Seagrave, said: "The majority of her colleagues seem to think they are above the law.
"I trust this officer will receive a £60 fine and three points added to her licence as would happen if she was a member of the public."
But a police spokesman said: "We cannot bring a prosecution just on someone's say-so, we need corroborative evidence.
"In this particular case it would be difficult to bring a prosecution.
"The whole situation is being looked at and the investigation is continuing so she may well still face disciplinary action."
Mr Jones also claims he saw the officer using a hand-held mobile phone while she was driving but she denies this.
She has insisted she pulled over before answering her phone.
Speeding officer will not be fined
A police officer who admitted speeding in a 40mph zone will not be fined, say senior officers.
The unnamed woman officer was challenged by two members of the public who witnessed her breaking the speed limit in a marked police car.
Despite admitting to her bosses that she was speeding the woman officer will not receive the usual £60 fine and three penalty points on her licence.
The offence was reported by Roger Jones, of Beatrice Road, Kettering, who was overtaken by the police driver as she sped through roadworks on the A6003 between Kettering and Corby on February 27.
At the time he said: "I am not trying to pick on an individual officer, but I believe if it were a member of the public caught it would be a different story."
After reading the story, Haydn Edwards, of Derling Drive, Raunds, said: "Chief Insp Jim Doran was quoted as saying 'while accepting she was speeding'. Can we be assured by him that the driver will be receiving a £60 fine and a three-point endorsement on her licence?"
And Valerie Stirmey, of Gotch Road, Barton Seagrave, said: "The majority of her colleagues seem to think they are above the law.
"I trust this officer will receive a £60 fine and three points added to her licence as would happen if she was a member of the public."
But a police spokesman said: "We cannot bring a prosecution just on someone's say-so, we need corroborative evidence.
"In this particular case it would be difficult to bring a prosecution.
"The whole situation is being looked at and the investigation is continuing so she may well still face disciplinary action."
Mr Jones also claims he saw the officer using a hand-held mobile phone while she was driving but she denies this.
She has insisted she pulled over before answering her phone.
catso said:
But a police spokesman said: "We cannot bring a prosecution just on someone's say-so, we need corroborative evidence.
Oh yeah, corroborative evidence, I remember that. Good point well made sir, there's no way we could ever know if she was really speeding or not.
catso said:
Despite admitting to her bosses that she was speeding...
Oh, wai...
>> Edited by FastShow on Monday 14th March 11:22
Nothing new there to be honest, I've followed many plod cars that were somewhat exceeding the limit, though not in a particularly dangerous area. Boils down to another aspect of discretion, the BIB's know that virtualy everyone exceeds the speed limit occaisionly, but as upholders of the law it dosen't look good if they do it (when not on an emergency call).
Cleary she cannot be prosecuted, and I'm sure the MOP's would be the first to scream "foul" if they were reported by a fellow citizen and prosecuted only on their say so.
>> Edited by MR2Mike on Monday 14th March 11:24
Cleary she cannot be prosecuted, and I'm sure the MOP's would be the first to scream "foul" if they were reported by a fellow citizen and prosecuted only on their say so.
>> Edited by MR2Mike on Monday 14th March 11:24
Someone remind me what the problem with the S172 NIP phrasing is.
A civilian spots you speeding, and then they send you a pre-phrased confession to a criminal offence, which you sign, and they ping you with £60 and three....
She was seen by civilians, and has admitted the offence. Problem here is....?
A civilian spots you speeding, and then they send you a pre-phrased confession to a criminal offence, which you sign, and they ping you with £60 and three....
She was seen by civilians, and has admitted the offence. Problem here is....?
randlemarcus said:
Someone remind me what the problem with the S172 NIP phrasing is.
A civilian spots you speeding, and then they send you a pre-phrased confession to a criminal offence, which you sign, and they ping you with £60 and three....
She was seen by civilians, and has admitted the offence. Problem here is....?
The civilian has the (not exactly infalible) laser speed gun and video recorder to back up the evidence. Without those his/her opinion would not be enough to sucure a conviction.
article said:
Speeding officer will not be fined
A police officer who admitted speeding in a 40mph zone will not be fined, say senior officers.
The unnamed woman officer was challenged by two members of the public who witnessed her breaking the speed limit in a marked police car.
Despite admitting to her bosses that she was speeding the woman officer will not receive the usual £60 fine and three penalty points on her licence.
The offence was reported by Roger Jones, of Beatrice Road, Kettering, who was overtaken by the police driver as she sped through roadworks on the A6003 between Kettering and Corby on February 27.
But she admitted that she was exceeding speed limit in most dangerous of situations: roadworks...
Ist same as signing the NIP form....
She confessed - so she should receive same punishment as everyone else. article said:
But a police spokesman said: "We cannot bring a prosecution just on someone's say-so, we need corroborative evidence.
Und a civilian operator of a speed gun may not be using this correctly either
Und what about the case whereby gatos recorded speed at 54 mph when guy was travelling at 27 mph .. und the one which flashed everyone at 83 mph regardless of actual speed. This was was successfully challenged becasue guy had set cruise control to 65 mph after being zapped by it previously (Grimbsy area in 2003) Und then there ist the M4 fiasco und cancelled tickets in Manchester due to incorrect signages....but only after alert und astute victims complained.
Too many do not challenge... She admitted she was speeding - so thus there ist her own "corroborative evidence" in any case ...
article said:
"The whole situation is being looked at and the investigation is continuing so she may well still face disciplinary action."
So.. we will never know outcome of this...
Perhaps she will have a very expensive clerical desk job... article said:
Mr Jones also claims he saw the officer using a hand-held mobile phone while she was driving but she denies this.
She has insisted she pulled over before answering her phone.
Well - she would... wouldn't she.
Ist to be hoped that she switched off her engine whilst she took her call 
supraman2954 said:
Speaking of which, has anyone seen Gary (Streetcop) recently?
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=10&t=160078
towman said:
Speaking of which, has anyone seen Gary (Streetcop) recently?
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=10&t=160078
I sent Gary an email about a week ago but I have not had a reply.
I've also left a message on his office voice mail yesterday, but I haven't heard from him yet. I know things got a bit prickly on here with him recently, so maybe he has fallen out with us, but I'd just like to know he's OK. Maybe he is on holiday.
Best wishes all,
Dave.
towman said:
Speaking of which, has anyone seen Gary (Streetcop) recently?
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=10&t=160078
he got a bit of a towsing on another thread where his memory regarding how old he was (31/38) and how long he'd been in the services was :ahem: questioned by certain parties.
Still no doubt he'll be back in a bit claiming to have been undercover down the Smoke, changed his login name to Irish Mick and wanting a group hug.
As usual, not too serious a post from FiF.
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