1973 911 2.4T Mfi Silverstone Auctions
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Saw this leftie early 911 in the auctions. Does anyone know what sort of cost it would be to get this back on the road?
I have spoken to the auction house and they confirm that this car has zero rust and is totally original. I love the original colour of ivory white too.
I have seen some cars that have needed £20K of rust repair before the paint starts, but if this doesn't need rust repair does anyone have an estimate of strip down and respray? I have estimates for engine and running gear. Needs work but wondering if its worth the plunge?
https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/1973-porsche-9...
I have spoken to the auction house and they confirm that this car has zero rust and is totally original. I love the original colour of ivory white too.
I have seen some cars that have needed £20K of rust repair before the paint starts, but if this doesn't need rust repair does anyone have an estimate of strip down and respray? I have estimates for engine and running gear. Needs work but wondering if its worth the plunge?
https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/1973-porsche-9...
I have my doubts and if I have a bid I will go and see it first. But the car has been in temperature controlled storage for 30 years and has low original mileage. I have additional close up photos from the auctions in all the key areas, I have to admit there are no signs of any rust at all.
The £20K figure I mentioned was just for rust repair, obviously a resto is more than that. But if there is genuinely no rust which i'm hopeful of, then general idea of strip down and repaint?
The £20K figure I mentioned was just for rust repair, obviously a resto is more than that. But if there is genuinely no rust which i'm hopeful of, then general idea of strip down and repaint?
This is the DDK thread which makes very interesting reading http://www.ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=1...
I would think a complete colour change back to original would be quite pricey as it will involve a lot of stripping of parts and reassembly as well as the paint. Then there's what's needed as well as paint question.
The question of an engine rebuild or not is a very big price question. Probably as big as the paint.
I wonder if we'll get more foreign money at the auction with its new found buying power? Very good news if you are selling at the weekend I reckon!
Looks a very interesting car though.
Bert
I would think a complete colour change back to original would be quite pricey as it will involve a lot of stripping of parts and reassembly as well as the paint. Then there's what's needed as well as paint question.
The question of an engine rebuild or not is a very big price question. Probably as big as the paint.
I wonder if we'll get more foreign money at the auction with its new found buying power? Very good news if you are selling at the weekend I reckon!
Looks a very interesting car though.
Bert
Thanks for the link. Yes it does sound like a pricey proposition. But I still think it is a perfect basis to start from and I cant afford a restored car.
And I hadn't thought about foreign buyers, I have seen far worse cars are advertised for 30K-40K euros in Europe, makes the estimate seem very low when you do the Euros conversion at 1.1 to 1!
I'll still go and have a look, I might get lucky...
And I hadn't thought about foreign buyers, I have seen far worse cars are advertised for 30K-40K euros in Europe, makes the estimate seem very low when you do the Euros conversion at 1.1 to 1!
I'll still go and have a look, I might get lucky...
it will all come down to the exact condition and parts included. Unless an early 911 has already been restored .. you can guarantee without exception, once the paint is stripped off there will be rust repairs needed. Its a matter of to what extent. A lot of the time the biggest problems can be re doing poor repair work carried out in the past by previous shops. A full strip back & complete colour change will cost
BUT, if you can buy at the right price & its a nice shell & you're more than happy with it being red, then it could be a good way of getting into an early car which you could spend the coming years driving & improving as a rolling resto
BUT, if you can buy at the right price & its a nice shell & you're more than happy with it being red, then it could be a good way of getting into an early car which you could spend the coming years driving & improving as a rolling resto
It's just possible that it hasn't got much rust. IF its 12 years and 2k miles per year were all US summer use and it's really been dry stored for 30 years, you just never know.
However that would I think make it pretty valuable, so either it's not that good or if it is, it'll command a strong price.
Good luck OP!
Bert
However that would I think make it pretty valuable, so either it's not that good or if it is, it'll command a strong price.
Good luck OP!
Bert
It could be that this is one of the few early 70's 911's that is original and has no rust. California car for first 12 years, low usage. Temperature controlled storage for 31 years since, same owner since 1985 until he recently passed away.
I have asked the auction again and they tell me they have never seen an un-restored early 911 like it, he said that apart from the colour change it is time warp. Absolutely everywhere is totally solid and everything is original, they think it has never seen a days rain! Told me to come and see it and tell them different...
If that's true then I think it may be out of my bidding range. Will have a look on Friday as I am going past.
I have asked the auction again and they tell me they have never seen an un-restored early 911 like it, he said that apart from the colour change it is time warp. Absolutely everywhere is totally solid and everything is original, they think it has never seen a days rain! Told me to come and see it and tell them different...
If that's true then I think it may be out of my bidding range. Will have a look on Friday as I am going past.
Had a good look around today. I have to say that it is very original and I couldn't find any rust at all.
I took a small hard rubber hammer that the auction house let me use lightly, all the typical rust areas were 100% solid. Given it has been standing in dry storage for 30 years it wasn't a surprise. I would say the mileage is original too.
I have had to admit that I doubt my high bid will be enough, but i'll give it a go.
I took a small hard rubber hammer that the auction house let me use lightly, all the typical rust areas were 100% solid. Given it has been standing in dry storage for 30 years it wasn't a surprise. I would say the mileage is original too.
I have had to admit that I doubt my high bid will be enough, but i'll give it a go.
lol to quote "it is time warp" then this is the photo of the car FFS
Looks f****** to me and would cost circa £60k to be restored imo, and will always only be a LHD basic T
if one is to spend £70k restoring a older car buy a better model. ie an S for 3x the price is at least worth >£200k restored so gives room to spend on it.
https://www.petervardy.com/item/25395/PORSCHE/Pors...
or even a Nice E
what's a restored LHD nice T worth these days £80k, does not seem worth the hassle just buy this one below.
http://borderreivers.co/portfolio/porsche-911te-lh...
Looks f****** to me and would cost circa £60k to be restored imo, and will always only be a LHD basic T
if one is to spend £70k restoring a older car buy a better model. ie an S for 3x the price is at least worth >£200k restored so gives room to spend on it.
https://www.petervardy.com/item/25395/PORSCHE/Pors...
or even a Nice E
what's a restored LHD nice T worth these days £80k, does not seem worth the hassle just buy this one below.
http://borderreivers.co/portfolio/porsche-911te-lh...
Porsche911R said:
lol to quote "it is time warp" then this is the photo of the car FFS
Looks f****** to me and would cost circa £60k to be restored imo, and will always only be a LHD basic T
if one is to spend £70k restoring a older car buy a better model. ie an S for 3x the price is at least worth >£200k restored so gives room to spend on it.
https://www.petervardy.com/item/25395/PORSCHE/Pors...
or even a Nice E
what's a restored LHD nice T worth these days £80k, does not seem worth the hassle just buy this one below.
http://borderreivers.co/portfolio/porsche-911te-lh...
Caution, yet another binary response..... Have you ever heard the phrase "for some the journey is more exciting/fun/pleasurable than the holiday" ? Maybe the OP WANTS, a project, and buying perfection is either too boring or too expensive for him.Looks f****** to me and would cost circa £60k to be restored imo, and will always only be a LHD basic T
if one is to spend £70k restoring a older car buy a better model. ie an S for 3x the price is at least worth >£200k restored so gives room to spend on it.
https://www.petervardy.com/item/25395/PORSCHE/Pors...
or even a Nice E
what's a restored LHD nice T worth these days £80k, does not seem worth the hassle just buy this one below.
http://borderreivers.co/portfolio/porsche-911te-lh...
Personally I think all the time and money you chuck at your Caymans is a complete and utter waste of money, but it's your money to spend, and your prerogative, so you do as you please. But for goodness sake let others do the same.
Slippydiff said:
Caution, yet another binary response..... Have you ever heard the phrase "for some the journey is more exciting/fun/pleasurable than the holiday" ? Maybe the OP WANTS, a project, and buying perfection is either too boring or too expensive for him.
Personally I think all the time and money you chuck at your Caymans is a complete and utter waste of money, but it's your money to spend, and your prerogative, so you do as you please. But for goodness sake let others do the same.
you will have to stop following me about :-)Personally I think all the time and money you chuck at your Caymans is a complete and utter waste of money, but it's your money to spend, and your prerogative, so you do as you please. But for goodness sake let others do the same.
I don't throw any money at my Caymans they are nice cars to drive which I use as a daily and hold value, how is that an utter waste of money !
One has gone up £15k the other is a daily and is the same price as I bought it , but hay lets not get into that bulls
t.post your own thoughts on the car or don't post, it's gets freaky the stalker mode you have regained, lets not revisit it again !
The links were for finished priced cars as examples.
my advice was start with a better model up the chain as there is more wiggle room in it, a T is always a T and that price is hard to get back if you throw money at it !
You could buy an nackered S @ £80k spend £60k and still have a car with profit left in it and a much nicer car to boot.
or go earlier and short wheel base. I don't get the point in throwing a load of money at a T, that's just my view on a forum when some one asks about said car.
I don't have £80K + £60K to buy a project...
Porsche made a few MFI 2.4T's. I love the original colour, the body is rust free and I don't have to go on a 5 year waiting list to get the metal sorted.
I can dismantle most of the car myself, despite what people think it doesn't take too much skill to save a lot of £ on the labour. As long as you spend the appropriate money on the main bits of the project.
Yes you can pay someone £50-80/hour to do it, (and they don't miss anything off the bill that's for sure) but a lot of that can be done myself.
Maybe i'm dreaming and I will be out of the bidding well before it sells...
Porsche made a few MFI 2.4T's. I love the original colour, the body is rust free and I don't have to go on a 5 year waiting list to get the metal sorted.
I can dismantle most of the car myself, despite what people think it doesn't take too much skill to save a lot of £ on the labour. As long as you spend the appropriate money on the main bits of the project.
Yes you can pay someone £50-80/hour to do it, (and they don't miss anything off the bill that's for sure) but a lot of that can be done myself.
Maybe i'm dreaming and I will be out of the bidding well before it sells...
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