2.0 TFSI Lotus Elise
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Thought I might as well post up a topic seeing as I've owned this since late June now.
This is my third Elise/Exige after a 07 Exige S and 03 Supercharged Honda Elise, so I've had a bit of a selection
In short it was originally a Elise 111R, the previous owner had the car Rotrex'd but it blew up once or twice I believe.
That same owner then had this engine fitted by PSR Automotive in Bishops Stortford, originally from a Seat Leon Cupra and it has the supporting hardware for stage 2+ so somewhere over 300Bhp and 300lbft. I'll be getting it dynoed towards the end of the month for a rough ball park figure.
The spec is:
Seat Leon Cupra 2.0 TFSI engine (BWJ engine).
ProAlloy Chargecooler and Pre rad.
ProAlloy triple pass rad.
OEM Seat ECU with Revo stage 2+ map and SPS switch.
Race Technology Dash2 digital dash.
Eliseparts Uprated toe-links.
Forge motorsport catch can kit.
Uprated revision G VAG diverter valve replacement.
APR uprated fuel pump and Audi RS4 fuel pressure regulating valve.
Lotus Exige 240R alloy wheels + Yokohama AD08 tyres.
Pagid RS14 Brake pads.
Exige S Bilstein springs/dampers.
2Bular stainless steel sports cat and backbox.
Drives quite differently to the previous cars, this is about torque and mid range thump making for a very quick road car. Sound wise it's all a bit Star Wars with the the turbo and diverter valve sounds loud in your ear as the air filter is on the right in this car.
Car is booked in for a service at the end of November. Whilst in there it'll have a clunking sound at slow speed from the front checked out and have the geo redone as these cars are quite sensitive to it and I'm getting more low speed understeer in this than previous cars.
Long term plans are just to drive it and maybe in the new year fit a front splitter, large side scoops and OE SC rear spoiler.
This is my third Elise/Exige after a 07 Exige S and 03 Supercharged Honda Elise, so I've had a bit of a selection
In short it was originally a Elise 111R, the previous owner had the car Rotrex'd but it blew up once or twice I believe.
That same owner then had this engine fitted by PSR Automotive in Bishops Stortford, originally from a Seat Leon Cupra and it has the supporting hardware for stage 2+ so somewhere over 300Bhp and 300lbft. I'll be getting it dynoed towards the end of the month for a rough ball park figure.
The spec is:
Seat Leon Cupra 2.0 TFSI engine (BWJ engine).
ProAlloy Chargecooler and Pre rad.
ProAlloy triple pass rad.
OEM Seat ECU with Revo stage 2+ map and SPS switch.
Race Technology Dash2 digital dash.
Eliseparts Uprated toe-links.
Forge motorsport catch can kit.
Uprated revision G VAG diverter valve replacement.
APR uprated fuel pump and Audi RS4 fuel pressure regulating valve.
Lotus Exige 240R alloy wheels + Yokohama AD08 tyres.
Pagid RS14 Brake pads.
Exige S Bilstein springs/dampers.
2Bular stainless steel sports cat and backbox.
Drives quite differently to the previous cars, this is about torque and mid range thump making for a very quick road car. Sound wise it's all a bit Star Wars with the the turbo and diverter valve sounds loud in your ear as the air filter is on the right in this car.
Car is booked in for a service at the end of November. Whilst in there it'll have a clunking sound at slow speed from the front checked out and have the geo redone as these cars are quite sensitive to it and I'm getting more low speed understeer in this than previous cars.
Long term plans are just to drive it and maybe in the new year fit a front splitter, large side scoops and OE SC rear spoiler.
Edited by -Neil- on Friday 14th October 18:17
jaik said:
Superb! How does it compare to your Honda car? I have an SC/CC Honda'd 135R, so the comparison's very interesting. Also, how do you find the LCD dash?
It's an interesting one, this is ~350Bhp and similar torque but weighs about 900Kg's. The Honda car weighed 830Kg with a full tank and was a smidge under 300Bhp/200Lbft so on paper the 0-100 times are pretty much identical.There's still some mid range to be found on this as it's pulling timing a bit and the high pressure fuel system is running a tad under what it should be, hopefully the service will sort this.
Where this is very quick is out of 3/4 gear corners riding the wave of torque, totally different and fun at the same time. It's quite a fun challenge keeping it on the boil, think peak torque is around 3K.
Ride wise it's better than the Honda car as that had Nitrons more suited to track work where as this has OE Exige S Bilsteins which are fab on the road.
Sound is very different, whooshing and sucking with loud releases of air on lifting off. Very Star Wars
certainly sounds impressive though!A small update of sorts, I visited Revo back in October and it was noted the car is pulling timing and the high pressure fuel pressure is a touch low for some reason so I've started looking into it.
I've changed the cam follower (old one was in good condition), fuel filter and spark plugs, the plugs that came out looked fine.
Next up is to buy a VCDS cable and software and start data logging the car properly.
Revo did suggest the in tank pump is a good place to start but I'm not going to order pricey bits until I've data logged it properly.
I dropped the car off for a service with Gugliemi Motorsport in Daventry on Wednesday.
A couple of additional bits and pieces being done, a slight knocking from the front at slow speeds over bumps along with a small oil leak from the turbo to sump pipe at the sump.
Fingers crossed the knocking from the front is a simple track rod end or ball joint and not the rack
I've changed the cam follower (old one was in good condition), fuel filter and spark plugs, the plugs that came out looked fine.
Next up is to buy a VCDS cable and software and start data logging the car properly.
Revo did suggest the in tank pump is a good place to start but I'm not going to order pricey bits until I've data logged it properly.
I dropped the car off for a service with Gugliemi Motorsport in Daventry on Wednesday.
A couple of additional bits and pieces being done, a slight knocking from the front at slow speeds over bumps along with a small oil leak from the turbo to sump pipe at the sump.
Fingers crossed the knocking from the front is a simple track rod end or ball joint and not the rack
A little update, so the knocking at the last service turned out to be an engine mount missing a nut where it attaches to the chassis leg.
I bought myself a VCDS (Vagcom) cable which has proven to be a good purchase.
Using VCDS I could see that the in tank pump was on its last legs and I replaced it and it's sorted the fuelling issue I was having.
I had the car mapped in January by Unicorn up Manchester way, gained 30Bhp and 50lbft.
Was noted it's still pulling timing, I think it's a combination of a few things. Mainly poor routing of the turbo outlet pipe into the charge cooler running between the manifold/down pipe and engine block heating it up.
The other thing I think it might be is the ecu is seeing something 'missing' sensor wise that it would have in the VAG donor, I think the car has been like this since converted.
It's still effing quick, just has some more to come with some mods later this year.
On the list later this year is:
Improve charge cooler system - Be it routing of piping or actual location to be moved for a shorter run too.
Syvecs or SCS ecu (Gain traction control amongst other things)
Re-wire of car as required as lots of things wiring wise are a joke.
Re route of intake pipe and larger filter.
60L Pro Alloy fuel tank.
Junk VAG PWM fuel system and return to a traditional setup.
3' exhaust pipework and GT3 style back box from down pipe flange on-wards as current is 2.5" or less.
Short term plans are to just drive the damn thing, I'm in the process of planning a Euro road trip for late July/Early August.
I bought myself a VCDS (Vagcom) cable which has proven to be a good purchase.
Using VCDS I could see that the in tank pump was on its last legs and I replaced it and it's sorted the fuelling issue I was having.
I had the car mapped in January by Unicorn up Manchester way, gained 30Bhp and 50lbft.
Was noted it's still pulling timing, I think it's a combination of a few things. Mainly poor routing of the turbo outlet pipe into the charge cooler running between the manifold/down pipe and engine block heating it up.
The other thing I think it might be is the ecu is seeing something 'missing' sensor wise that it would have in the VAG donor, I think the car has been like this since converted.
It's still effing quick, just has some more to come with some mods later this year.
On the list later this year is:
Improve charge cooler system - Be it routing of piping or actual location to be moved for a shorter run too.
Syvecs or SCS ecu (Gain traction control amongst other things)
Re-wire of car as required as lots of things wiring wise are a joke.
Re route of intake pipe and larger filter.
60L Pro Alloy fuel tank.
Junk VAG PWM fuel system and return to a traditional setup.
3' exhaust pipework and GT3 style back box from down pipe flange on-wards as current is 2.5" or less.
Short term plans are to just drive the damn thing, I'm in the process of planning a Euro road trip for late July/Early August.
Hi Neil,
Loving the Lotus, I have a stage 2+ MK6 Golf R with a unicorn motor developments map (its the white one in the videos on his facebook page) and mines unbelievably quick so I can imagine how quick this must be being so light. Rick sure knows his stuff and the aftercare he provides is exceptionally good.
Any plans for stage 3? He's done a few TFSI stage 3's running 500+ bhp
Loving the Lotus, I have a stage 2+ MK6 Golf R with a unicorn motor developments map (its the white one in the videos on his facebook page) and mines unbelievably quick so I can imagine how quick this must be being so light. Rick sure knows his stuff and the aftercare he provides is exceptionally good.
Any plans for stage 3? He's done a few TFSI stage 3's running 500+ bhp
Hi Toby, seen your car on his Facebook.
No plans for stage 3 as drive-ability and response is a bigger priority than top end whack from a larger turbo.
I'd go TTE420 at the most, but I'd be happy with mine running proper 2+ levels. Though it's a challenge in a mid engine layout due to cooling, you front engine guys have loads of nice cold air on tap
No plans for stage 3 as drive-ability and response is a bigger priority than top end whack from a larger turbo.
I'd go TTE420 at the most, but I'd be happy with mine running proper 2+ levels. Though it's a challenge in a mid engine layout due to cooling, you front engine guys have loads of nice cold air on tap
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