Drove the range.... wow

Drove the range.... wow

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Beefmeister

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16,482 posts

231 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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I was very lucky to be invited to a McLaren Media event on Tue/Wed this week in the midlands. Got to drive the 570GT, followed by the 570S for about 2hrs each, then nice dinner and night in a fancy spa hotel, followed by breakfast and then a couple of hours in a 650S.

I've driven a lot of supercars in my time, and have driven a 650S before briefly, but it was the 570's that really stood out for me.

Going from the GT to the S was a good choice, the GT is very relaxing to drive, the steering fluid, the glass roof makes the interior so airy, then into the S and it feels like an Elise with an extra 400hp, so alive, fidgety, exciting. I was most impressed by the way that the two cars, despite having 99% the same body and mechanical packages are so completely different in execution. Of course, they were both mind-bendingly quick. Certainly feels like 570hp is a conservative estimate, in my experience at least.

If I had to have the car as a daily driver, it would undoubtedly be the GT, but with the S exhaust, it was too muted without. If it was more a weekend toy then the extra excitement of the S would be essential and more rewarding.

The 650S is well documented already in here - it defies the laws of physics how that thing eats a ribbon of tarmac so easily. The ride in Normal is better than in an Audi A8, it's staggering, then you have the sheer speed of the thing (maybe even too quick) and of course the looks.

Spending time with McLaren's PR team made me even more positive about the company now too. Good chat about how they're trying to distance themselves from the Ron Dennis association with his OCD nature and lack of fun. They're pushing the life, soul and passion within the company and it really showed through.

Some gratuitous pics:












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Edited by Beefmeister on Thursday 13th October 10:59

Pioneer

1,311 posts

132 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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Great being able to do that. I would buy a McL in a heartbeat if I never had to look at them from the outside. 570 is slowly growing on me though. Can't put my finger on it but these do nothing for me visually. The drive on the 570 is meant to be pinpoint though, and I was told that by a Lambo main dealer.

MitchT

15,928 posts

210 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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Like the sound of the GT. Couldn't drive one though without the niggling sense that there was a surprised robot staring at me from the centre console!

SELON

1,172 posts

130 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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Now that sounds like a good day out smile

Sticking the super series in Normal/Normal and auto is a bizarre experience insofar that you would have no idea you're in a supercar if you were blindfolded.

The 570S certainly escapes its traction a lot more easily than the 650S. I got the tail out in a car park at low speed!

When I had the 570S, other motorists feedback was pretty special. All positive.

As you say, there is a real mix of characters now in the line up. Something for most people.

BelfastBoy

779 posts

161 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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What colour is GT57 MCL? Looks like a lovely deep purple in the photos.

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

171 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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Sounds like a great experience.

Cracking range of cars presumably with a 570s spider to come shortly.

I like the way the 650S is so accomplished and can achieve what both the 570GT and S do in one package and of course with the roof down

f1ten

2,161 posts

154 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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Lucky bugger that's a nice day out

I'm now no longer a McLaren virgin having tried a 650s
My god it can go
Other than engine noise and restrained cabin aesthetics I can't fault it

barchetta_boy

2,200 posts

233 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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The cabin is one of my favourite parts of the P11 car (12C, 650S, 675). Wonderful instrumentation and ergonomics.

Far better than the all-digital instruments of the 570 - these are never as good as a proper rev counter IMHO

Beefmeister

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16,482 posts

231 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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BelfastBoy said:
What colour is GT57 MCL? Looks like a lovely deep purple in the photos.
I think that one is Cobalt Violet.

NOTE: It had a beige interior that included the rear luggage area - if anyone is speccing a GT, DON'T have a light colour in that luggage area as it reflects in the hatch and kills your rear visibility.

Gandahar

9,600 posts

129 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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Henry Catchpole at Evo hypothesised a 570 GTS being best of both worlds.

Slightly off topic, what camera did you use for those? The white balance looks spot on.


Alex

9,975 posts

285 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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I much, much prefer the rear end of the 650 to the 570.

tyrrell

1,670 posts

209 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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Been at MTC today and saw my new 570S being readied for dispatch to the dealers bouncefor me 570 rear end looks so good in the flesh, saw a P1 whilst there and you can see the DNA in the 570 rear end styling has come from the P1.

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

171 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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Alex said:
I much, much prefer the rear end of the 650 to the 570.
I agree its a bit over fussy on the 570S, the whole car has a lot going on - some of it aero some just aesthetic.
650S looks purer design but no doubt someone will come along and say the 12C is the purest despite its bland front

Beefmeister

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16,482 posts

231 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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Gandahar said:
Slightly off topic, what camera did you use for those? The white balance looks spot on.
iPhone 7 Plus!

Thom

1,716 posts

248 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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The rear end of the 12C/650S with those flat lines looks like it was taken straight from some concept car designed in the 60s. The Alfa Romeo Carabo springs to mind. Sorry but definitely the worst view of the car and doesn't belong to a modern "sports" car of this level. Amazing how better the 675LT's rear end looks even with minor-ish tweaks. To be honest it's the 570S that got me looking into McLarens again, as much of the dull pretentiousness of the 12C/650S has thankfully been taken away, as what I would now call the "trademark" lines as originally defined by the 12C were vastly improved through subtle changes of proportions. Stunning work and improvement.
Sorry anyway, just my odd taste perhaps... getmecoat

Edited by Thom on Thursday 13th October 21:21

PGN6

142 posts

144 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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I have to agree- 12c too bland at front, 650 bland at the rear and for me lacks a bit of road presence - personal opinion of course- but it was the 570 that got me interested in McLaren..

100 IAN

1,091 posts

163 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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PGN6 said:
I have to agree- 12c too bland at front, 650 bland at the rear and for me lacks a bit of road presence - personal opinion of course- but it was the 570 that got me interested in McLaren..
As an owner of a 12C, and in possibly the most reserved colour of the lot, I can't agree with lack of road presence - not if judged by the number of drivers who photograph/video you from behind whilst they're driving.

12C undoubtedly gets more attention than my F355, but less than my Diablo

If the 12C was a brighter colour and had an aftermarket exhaust like the Diablo, then it might be a closer run thing than you'd imagine.

footsoldier

2,259 posts

193 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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Have just driven 350 miles in GT, stopping only for fuel. It's genuinely a comfortable car for long journeys. It's easy to get in and out of; is quieter and less nervous than cars like that are normally. It is a GT!
If you turn settings to track though, it changes character completely, and is fast and raucous (even though I have standard exhaust)

I read Evos range review this month and it's a bit silly - it takes a GT on track and says it's not as sharp as the S. That's the point! If it was, it would be less relaxing for cruising etc. I think they've done a good job of differentiating and making a good later alternative to a Turbo S.

johnnyreggae

2,944 posts

161 months

Friday 14th October 2016
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Beefmeister said:
NOTE: It had a beige interior that included the rear luggage area - if anyone is speccing a GT, DON'T have a light colour in that luggage area as it reflects in the hatch and kills your rear visibility.
Echo this as Ascot's GT demo has the same issue - but what a car !

MitchT

15,928 posts

210 months

Friday 14th October 2016
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Interesting to know. I was thinking how lovely it looks with the beige interior contrasting with dark paintwork.