Focke under a Turkish airport
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I guess this the the latest fantasy we all hope becomes reality but know it never will!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3839195/A-...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3839195/A-...
There was no such aeroplane or aeroplane company as "Focke". The company that built the 190 was called "Focke-Wulf" and all their aircraft were called Focke-Wulf Fw189, Fw190, Fw200 etc.
Heinrich Focke - who had co-founded Focke-Wulf company in the 1920s, left the company in 1936 and formed Focke-Achgelis - which became a pioneering company in the development of helicopters.
Late edit due to the fact that I just noticed I left out the all important word "no".
Heinrich Focke - who had co-founded Focke-Wulf company in the 1920s, left the company in 1936 and formed Focke-Achgelis - which became a pioneering company in the development of helicopters.
Late edit due to the fact that I just noticed I left out the all important word "no".
Edited by Eric Mc on Saturday 15th October 18:09
Isnt there supposed to be a hoard of Harleys buried under some airport somewhere ....
I do seem to remember one actually being proven, or at least reading about the discovery quite some years ago - perhaps as many as 20 years ago - and I think it may have actually happened quite some years before that, but cant find the details anywhere.
Something along the lines of a few ME109s in various states of build or repair being found in a flooded underground Nazi factory or workshop...
I do seem to remember one actually being proven, or at least reading about the discovery quite some years ago - perhaps as many as 20 years ago - and I think it may have actually happened quite some years before that, but cant find the details anywhere.
Something along the lines of a few ME109s in various states of build or repair being found in a flooded underground Nazi factory or workshop...
Simpo Two said:
Fw190s were pretty new on 1943 and Germany needed them to counter the latest Spitfires. I'm not sure they'd give 50 to Turkey.
I can see it if it gave Germany access to material that they were desperate for, which was pretty much everything, at this point in the war. Especially if the material was needed for the V programmes.
but then again, that probably marks us out as being borderline old gits?! 
PAUL500 said:
Ray Luxury-Yacht said:
/ Stan Boardman
Exactly Ray, that was my whole play on the word, which pedantic Eric clearly didn't get!Whoosh parrot for him.....
I blame Boardman for kicking this whole "Focke" thing off.
(PS I note that the caption to the artwork above has mis-spelled "Wulf". Bloody internet. I'll be amazed if anybody knows anything before long.
They built this thing - which pre-war flew non-stop from Berlin to New York -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ9KntTSyG0
During World War 2, a bomber version was used against the Atlantic convoys -
They weren't really used as strategic bombers as they had some shortcomings, despite their range. Structurally they were rather weak.
Focke-Wulf Fw200 Condor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ9KntTSyG0
During World War 2, a bomber version was used against the Atlantic convoys -
They weren't really used as strategic bombers as they had some shortcomings, despite their range. Structurally they were rather weak.
Focke-Wulf Fw200 Condor
Simpo Two said:
Fw190s were pretty new on 1943 and Germany needed them to counter the latest Spitfires. I'm not sure they'd give 50 to Turkey.
They didn't give them 50, they gave them 72."In 1941, Germany made an arms export offer to Turkey which included aircraft to modernize the Turkish air force. The negotiations were led by Franz von Papen, who had been chancellor of Germany before Hitler and then shuttled off to an ambassadorship to keep him out of German politics. The negotiations were concluded in July 1942, and resulted in a barter deal whereby Germany would provide 72 Focke-Wulf Fw-190 fighters in exchange for chromium and high-grade iron.
The raw materials were badly needed by the German arms industry. Additionally, Hitler hoped to woo Turkey into the Axis to join the attack on the USSR, or, at least keep Turkey neutral with a favorable posture towards Germany. For Turkey, the deal was excellent, as it was getting a world-class plane without having to directly use cash for the buy. In 1941, the Fw-190 was certainly the Luftwaffe’s best fighter and was one of the top fighters in the world. It was at least a full generation ahead of the Curtiss Hawks which it replaced. A side benefit was that it goaded the western powers into making generous arms sales themselves to keep Turkey neutral; and the Fw-190s were soon joined by British Spitfires and American P-40 Tomahawks. The end result was that between 1941-1944, Turkey went from having one of Europe’s worst air forces to one of it’s best, in just 3 ½ years."
The Fw190A's remained in Turkish AF service until early 1949.
I seriously doubt they are buried anywhere in Turkey.
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