Sandra Howard's Fiat Panda
Sandra Howard's Fiat Panda
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jamesc

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2,820 posts

313 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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Vandals have destroyed Sandra Howard's Fiat Panda. Lets hope the Police catch the thugs that did this disgusting act!

slikk

2,135 posts

272 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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Not wishing to cause offence, but who is Sandra Howard ?

pmanson

13,388 posts

282 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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slikk said:
Not wishing to cause offence, but who is Sandra Howard ?


Glad i'm not the only one thinking that!

Paul 2000

1,080 posts

296 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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The next (possibly, maybe) Prime Minister's wife.

JustTheTip

1,035 posts

265 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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Kudos to the lady for using the same car for 15 years, and not, for example, demanding that hubby buys a jag. Or dare I say, two jags.......

JagLover

46,734 posts

264 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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She is a walking advertisement for Labour's failure on crime-she was also mugged a couple of years ago.

and yes for those of you not aware-she is Michael Howard's wife.

Mrs Fish

30,018 posts

287 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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jamesc said:
Vandals have destroyed Sandra Howard's Fiat Panda. Lets hope the Police catch the thugs that did this disgusting act!



Is that tongue in cheek????

nonegreen

7,803 posts

299 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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Mrs Fish said:

jamesc said:
Vandals have destroyed Sandra Howard's Fiat Panda. Lets hope the Police catch the thugs that did this disgusting act!




Is that tongue in cheek????


Destroying Fiat Pandas is surely some sort of public service. Can we really elect someone whos wife drives such a heap of crap?

bga

8,134 posts

280 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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nonegreen said:

Mrs Fish said:


jamesc said:
Vandals have destroyed Sandra Howard's Fiat Panda. Lets hope the Police catch the thugs that did this disgusting act!





Is that tongue in cheek????



Destroying Fiat Pandas is surely some sort of public service. Can we really elect someone whos wife drives such a heap of crap?

Fiat Panda's are great cars, tough, cheap, easy to work on, fun to drive. Every time I drove mine it used to put a smile on my face. For a dirt cheap car (we picked ours up for £100) you could do a lot worse for a young driver. It may not be fast or particularly safe but the FIRE engines are great - free revving and responsive. Set a Panda up right for a corner and it will drift through with very little roll, get it wrong and you will wallow round though.

JagLover

46,734 posts

264 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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nonegreen said:


Destroying Fiat Pandas is surely some sort of public service. Can we really elect someone whos wife drives such a heap of crap?


I find it reassuring that in Mr Howards household the natural order of things is maintained.

Executive or Sports car for the man-shopping trolley for the woman-you know it makes sense.

nonegreen

7,803 posts

299 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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bga said:

nonegreen said:


Mrs Fish said:



jamesc said:
Vandals have destroyed Sandra Howard's Fiat Panda. Lets hope the Police catch the thugs that did this disgusting act!






Is that tongue in cheek????




Destroying Fiat Pandas is surely some sort of public service. Can we really elect someone whos wife drives such a heap of crap?


Fiat Panda's are great cars, tough, cheap, easy to work on, fun to drive. Every time I drove mine it used to put a smile on my face. For a dirt cheap car (we picked ours up for £100) you could do a lot worse for a young driver. It may not be fast or particularly safe but the FIRE engines are great - free revving and responsive. Set a Panda up right for a corner and it will drift through with very little roll, get it wrong and you will wallow round though.


Yeah OK if thats Mrs Howards driving style I will vote for him then

v8thunder

27,647 posts

287 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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Also, surely it's more environmentally friendly to keep an older car maintained and on the road than it would be to do the New Labour thing and buy a brand new Prius (or the Liberal Democrat thing and try to commute on the clatterbox).

Apparently the police aren't interested - well obviously not, the car wasn't speeding, and vandlism involves filling in lots of forms

They say this election is getting too personal. I can't honestly see how that's to anyone's detriment as a human being right now.

egoboss

838 posts

259 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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v8thunder said:
Also, surely it's more environmentally friendly to keep an older car maintained and on the road than it would be to do the New Labour thing and buy a brand new Prius (or the Liberal Democrat thing and try to commute on the clatterbox).

Apparently the police aren't interested - well obviously not, the car wasn't speeding, and vandlism involves filling in lots of forms

They say this election is getting too personal. I can't honestly see how that's to anyone's detriment as a human being right now.


exactly. she's a remarkably sound person, mrs howard - she comes across very well. rather a better ambassador for the country as "1st lady" than our current "human rights crusader" cruella da ville (sp?). howard himself is hardly media-friendly but such media-friendly savvy is what got st tony bliar elected and just look at what a shallow, superficial liar he has turned out to be.

i believe this will be a very close election; a low turn out (as it will be) usually bodes well for the tories, doesn't it?

they (tories) can certainly rely on a few million countryside alliance and similar votes - that's more than st tony can claim. does st tony even know what his "target" voter looks like?

is there such a thing - was there ever such a thing as - the new labour "mondeo man" target voter profile ...? how patronising, how typical new labour.



c c

8,048 posts

268 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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I wonder if it might have been a put up job.

off_again

13,917 posts

263 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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Both the current prime ministers wife and the leader of the oppositions wife should get the full support and security afforded to their respective positions.

Without this "protection" we run the risks of allowing bully boy tactics to affect and alter the perception and reality of an open and democratic system.

So, does Howards wife get any form of security from our illustrious security services? If not why not?

v8thunder

27,647 posts

287 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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egoboss said:

v8thunder said:
Also, surely it's more environmentally friendly to keep an older car maintained and on the road than it would be to do the New Labour thing and buy a brand new Prius (or the Liberal Democrat thing and try to commute on the clatterbox).

Apparently the police aren't interested - well obviously not, the car wasn't speeding, and vandlism involves filling in lots of forms

They say this election is getting too personal. I can't honestly see how that's to anyone's detriment as a human being right now.



exactly. she's a remarkably sound person, mrs howard - she comes across very well. rather a better ambassador for the country as "1st lady" than our current "human rights crusader" cruella da ville (sp?). howard himself is hardly media-friendly but such media-friendly savvy is what got st tony bliar elected and just look at what a shallow, superficial liar he has turned out to be.

i believe this will be a very close election; a low turn out (as it will be) usually bodes well for the tories, doesn't it?

they (tories) can certainly rely on a few million countryside alliance and similar votes - that's more than st tony can claim. does st tony even know what his "target" voter looks like?

is there such a thing - was there ever such a thing as - the new labour "mondeo man" target voter profile ...? how patronising, how typical new labour.





I think the Tories may actually be able to win this one - only by a slim margin, mind, but I can't see another elderly person voting for Labour, or another student, or anyone in the countryside, or anyone involved in the police, or anyone from Nottingham. In fact, the only vote Labour really can rely on is the civil service, and not all of them can vote!

My only worry is a surprise swing to the Liberal Democrats. If you think Labour have made some mistakes you ain't seen nothing yet - if these guys get in, it's bye-bye economy, bye-bye disposable income, bye-bye cars, and something's only a civil liberty once it's been passed through the Big Yellow Acme Ideology-ometer, and Charles Kennedy decides that somehow 'abolish tuition fees' means 'graduate tax', 'resurface roads' means 'speed humps and scameras', and 'spend money on public services' means 'spend money on civil servants who operate public services'. Hopeless.

egoboss

838 posts

259 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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v8thunder said:

I think the Tories may actually be able to win this one - only by a slim margin, mind, but I can't see another elderly person voting for Labour, or another student, or anyone in the countryside, or anyone involved in the police, or anyone from Nottingham. In fact, the only vote Labour really can rely on is the civil service, and not all of them can vote!

My only worry is a surprise swing to the Liberal Democrats. If you think Labour have made some mistakes you ain't seen nothing yet - if these guys get in, it's bye-bye economy, bye-bye disposable income, bye-bye cars, and something's only a civil liberty once it's been passed through the Big Yellow Acme Ideology-ometer, and Charles Kennedy decides that somehow 'abolish tuition fees' means 'graduate tax', 'resurface roads' means 'speed humps and scameras', and 'spend money on public services' means 'spend money on civil servants who operate public services'. Hopeless.


agree.

never has the word "liberal" been so badly abused!!!

hut49

3,544 posts

291 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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c c said:
I wonder if it might have been a put up job.
That was my first reaction too!

JagLover

46,734 posts

264 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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egoboss said:


agree.

never has the word "liberal" been so badly abused!!!



They have defiled the word!!!

b17nns

18,506 posts

276 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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v8thunder said:
I think the Tories may actually be able to win this one - only by a slim margin, mind, but I can't see another elderly person voting for Labour, or another student, or anyone in the countryside, or anyone involved in the police, or anyone from Nottingham. In fact, the only vote Labour really can rely on is the civil service, and not all of them can vote!

you missed out homeowner