F***ing Potholes.....
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Zippee

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14,124 posts

263 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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Coming down the road at 25 mph only to go through what I though was a small puddle, THUD, turned out to be a half foot deep pothole where contractors for Anglian Water hadn't resurfaced properly after having dug the road up.
Chim cut out and rolled to a halt, refused to start and had to be loaded onto a truck to Offords, looks like the shock has shorted out the immobiliser circuit. Why can't people just do the job properly in the first place? Don't even know if theres chassis damage yet so just have to wait and hear back from them. Can be damned sure Anglian Water will be paying every penny of whatever bill I'm presented with though..

tvrbob

11,197 posts

284 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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Agreed. Sue the council, it's the only way to get them to take an interest in the quality of third party contractor work.

Zippee

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14,124 posts

263 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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Trouble is it was Anglian Water who arranged the works so the Highways Dept aren't admitting any liability. I've got some details for Anglian so will try firing a claim off to them as soon as I receive my bill from Offords. If that doesn't work then next stop the council...
Why does the flat bed always turn up at school kicking out itme though? Nothing worse than your p&j being loaded whilst hundreds of sneering brats are walking past laughing.

tvrbob

11,197 posts

284 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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If it was on a council adopted road then I'm sure the council are accountable to you. They authorised the work and dictate the quality. Plus they're easier to sue.

millyad

104 posts

271 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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in an ideal world, wouldnt it be nice to stop it out of our 'highly' escalated council tax/car tax!
i know some roads are bad but you always get that one that makes the cd jump and you have to boook the dentist to have you lower fillings replaced!

Zippee

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14,124 posts

263 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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millyad said:
in an ideal world, wouldnt it be nice to stop it out of our 'highly' escalated council tax/car tax!
i know some roads are bad but you always get that one that makes the cd jump and you have to boook the dentist to have you lower fillings replaced!

Bad? This hole was over 7" deep and a metre square!!!
I don't mind the odd pothole but this was positively dangerous...
So much so the council actually forced Anglian to send someone out to sit by it until a repair could be done/hole coned off.

oldred

3,764 posts

267 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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Zippee said:

millyad said:
in an ideal world, wouldnt it be nice to stop it out of our 'highly' escalated council tax/car tax!
i know some roads are bad but you always get that one that makes the cd jump and you have to boook the dentist to have you lower fillings replaced!


Bad? This hole was over 7" deep and a metre square!!!
I don't mind the odd pothole but this was positively dangerous...
So much so the council actually forced Anglian to send someone out to sit by it until a repair could be done/hole coned off.


Sue the feckers, did you get photographic evidence?

parrot of doom

23,075 posts

263 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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It matters not who did the work - the council are responsible for the upkeep and maintainance of all roads (except trunk roads IIRC).

From the sound of it, a hole of that size they can't get away with it.

Nuggs

4,640 posts

263 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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parrot of doom said:
It matters not who did the work - the council are responsible for the upkeep and maintainance of all roads


I would check that quite carefully before making a claim. The council are unlikely to be responsible for unadopted roads, and IIRC the Highways Agency is responsible for a number of roads including motorways...

Sorry to hear the news Zippee (and in your case, it does sound like a council-maintained road) - good luck with the repairs and getting the money back...

>> Edited by Nuggs on Tuesday 15th March 18:40

andy43

13,167 posts

283 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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Did you check it wasn't just the fuel pump trip behind the glovebox
The council have formulas for the size/depth of hole as to whether its a payout pothole or not or so I was told, and I think it has to have been reported before or summat - I got nowhere after trying to claim for a bent alloy and back axle (Corrado) after clipping a kerbstone someone had kindly dug out of the pavement and left in the gutter on a left-hand bend
Bet you get nowhere with claiming but best of luck anyway!

egoboss

838 posts

259 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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Zippee said:

millyad said:
in an ideal world, wouldnt it be nice to stop it out of our 'highly' escalated council tax/car tax!
i know some roads are bad but you always get that one that makes the cd jump and you have to boook the dentist to have you lower fillings replaced!


Bad? This hole was over 7" deep and a metre square!!!
I don't mind the odd pothole but this was positively dangerous...
So much so the council actually forced Anglian to send someone out to sit by it until a repair could be done/hole coned off.


7"!?!?? good lord, that is terrifying - imagine if a 'biker had the misfortune to come across it?

had similar experiences myself in the past but nothing this extreme, ie no damage, just a bloody awful jarring experience in the car.

nowadays, it means i avoid at all costs any part of the road that seems to have a hole, especially if water covered, meaning one can't judge possible depth.

unfortunately - especially around here - this means i spend my time driving in a slalom style ...

good luck, sue the sloppy buggers ... hope no significant damage to the car.

ginner

442 posts

264 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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Sue the council, they are responsible for maintaining the roads and ensuring that all works is carried by contractors / utilities etc...is in accordance with HAUC and the NR&SWA. The tolerance on a road surface is +/- 6mm athough i believe they will get away with a hole of -30mm in court.

Zippee

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14,124 posts

263 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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egoboss said:

Zippee said:


millyad said:
in an ideal world, wouldnt it be nice to stop it out of our 'highly' escalated council tax/car tax!
i know some roads are bad but you always get that one that makes the cd jump and you have to boook the dentist to have you lower fillings replaced!



Bad? This hole was over 7" deep and a metre square!!!
I don't mind the odd pothole but this was positively dangerous...
So much so the council actually forced Anglian to send someone out to sit by it until a repair could be done/hole coned off.



7"!?!?? good lord, that is terrifying - imagine if a 'biker had the misfortune to come across it?

had similar experiences myself in the past but nothing this extreme, ie no damage, just a bloody awful jarring experience in the car.

nowadays, it means i avoid at all costs any part of the road that seems to have a hole, especially if water covered, meaning one can't judge possible depth.

unfortunately - especially around here - this means i spend my time driving in a slalom style ...

good luck, sue the sloppy buggers ... hope no significant damage to the car.


My point exactly, on speaking to the highways dept initially they said it had already been reported to them that morning and they in turn had reported it to Anglian. I took a number of pics on my mobile but can't work out how to e-mail these so if someone wants me to send them via text and host a couple of them let me know! The deepest part of the hole was also in the centre of the road with a flat edge so no chance of just rolling in and out.

Raify

6,556 posts

277 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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Zippee said:

I took a number of pics on my mobile but can't work out how to e-mail these so if someone wants me to send them via text and host a couple of them let me know! The deepest part of the hole was also in the centre of the road with a flat edge so no chance of just rolling in and out.


Sorry to hear about this, I have a bumper-grounding speed hump / pothole combo to negotiate every morning. If that bumper ever needs replacing, I know who will be getting the bill.

On the subject of the photo's, I've got a bluetooth dongle that means I can transfer pics from the phone to pc. If you like you can text them to me, and I'll transfer and host on fotango...pm me if you like.

Nathan

parrot of doom

23,075 posts

263 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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zippee, you have mail

Zippee

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263 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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Nathan,
YHM
Cheers
Tony

Raify

6,556 posts

277 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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got the first pic, firing up bluetooth....

Here it is:

I'll mail you a copy in case fotango makes it even more blurred.



>> Edited by Raify on Tuesday 15th March 20:17

MAC5

254 posts

285 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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Unlucky,

Had the same thing myself a number of years ago.Punctured the tyre, buckled the wheel and knocked the tracking out. Contacted the local council with photographic evidence of road who informed me the local water authority were responsible for the work.

Good news is they paid up very promptly without argument.

Good Luck

Mac

>> Edited by MAC5 on Tuesday 15th March 20:22

oldred

3,764 posts

267 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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Raify said:
got the first pic, firing up bluetooth....

Here it is:

I'll mail you a copy in case fotango makes it even more blurred.



>> Edited by Raify on Tuesday 15th March 20:17


That's not a pothole it's an open cast mine!

Raify

6,556 posts

277 months

Tuesday 15th March 2005
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It gets worse:




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>> Edited by Raify on Tuesday 15th March 22:15