oooooh! just found a Lotus Elan +2 !
oooooh! just found a Lotus Elan +2 !
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Brads67

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3,199 posts

127 months

Tuesday 1st November 2016
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Actually have driven past it a thousand times but finally got to chat with the owner.

Needs a full resto but is pretty solid. Such a shame it`s sitting out in the open. Hopefully something will come from the chat we had.

Would be a superb project.

hidetheelephants

35,708 posts

222 months

Tuesday 1st November 2016
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Brads67 said:
Actually have driven past it a thousand times but finally got to chat with the owner.

Needs a full resto but is pretty solid. Such a shame it`s sitting out in the open. Hopefully something will come from the chat we had.

Would be a superb project.
This thread is useless without pics! biggrin

Brads67

Original Poster:

3,199 posts

127 months

Tuesday 1st November 2016
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Nope, not yet smile Will wait and see how it develops first

TR4man

5,526 posts

203 months

Tuesday 1st November 2016
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You tease!

Blue62

10,587 posts

181 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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I speak from personal experience, there's no such thing as a 'solid' Elan, maybe you meant soiled!

I'm sure (hope) you know what you're doing, good luck.

Rich135

809 posts

271 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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Sounds like a good project, price dependent! I love my '70 +2S.

duka

431 posts

249 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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chassis required?

POORCARDEALER

8,663 posts

270 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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engines are very expensive for full rebuilds

Huntsman

9,313 posts

279 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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New chassis and a Zetec conversion....

Rangeroverover

1,523 posts

140 months

Friday 4th November 2016
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Bravest of the brave, not only a wooden boat but a lotus to go with it

have you sold the boat yet? as I reckon sale price of boat=full restomod of elan

MoggieMinor

471 posts

174 months

Friday 4th November 2016
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Huntsman said:
New chassis and a Zetec conversion....
Too right. Someone would be daft enough to buy that horrific Lotus engine. The money would build a Zetec to whatever spec you want...

Huntsman

9,313 posts

279 months

Friday 4th November 2016
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Rangeroverover said:
Bravest of the brave, not only a wooden boat but a lotus to go with it

have you sold the boat yet? as I reckon sale price of boat=full restomod of elan
As much as I admire the Elan I'm not messing with cars at the mo, small matter of redundancy, needing to build some flats and a young family.

Huntsman is tucked up for winter now in a big shed on Isle of Wight, she'll come out in spring.



Equus

16,980 posts

130 months

Friday 4th November 2016
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MoggieMinor said:
Huntsman said:
New chassis and a Zetec conversion....
Too right. Someone would be daft enough to buy that horrific Lotus engine. The money would build a Zetec to whatever spec you want...
The way Elan prices (even Plus 2's) are heading at the moment, the last thing you'd want to do is create a canibalised mongrel of a car like that. It will wreck it's future values and desirability. Might as well mould a GRP replica hull for your Huntsman!

The Lotus Twin Cam is complicated and expensive to rebuild if you're used to something like a BMC A-series or Ford Crossflow, but it's still only a fraction of the finished value of the car, these days, and it's a perfectly good and reliable engine if built by someone who knows their arse from their elbow.

It's also surprisingly torquey compared to modern 16-valve engines and has a whole lot more character than the Zetec ever had.

PomBstard

7,859 posts

271 months

Friday 4th November 2016
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Regardless of what you do, I'm supremely jealous of anyone getting an Elan. A DHC Sprint is top of the Lottery List, and values seem to keep outpacing my ability to buy by some margin.

A friend has been rebuilding a Europa, and I think has a spare twin cam on his bench. Not sure of his plans for it, but with recent price rises, I suspect he'll find a project car for it to go into.

And a neighbour is currently building a 26R replica - looks and sounds awesome.

Hope it works out.

smn159

15,937 posts

246 months

Saturday 5th November 2016
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Equus said:
canibalised mongrel of a car
Having carried out a Zetec conversion of my own previously (on a wreck which came with no engine) I can confirm that you will encounter this attitude a lot within the Lotus community.

It's your car - do what you like with it!


timhum

163 posts

212 months

Saturday 5th November 2016
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Of course if you own the car you can do whatever you want with it if although if it hasn't got a twincam motor it isn't an Elan.
Would putting a Rover V 8 in my E type have a negative effect on it, sure would!
Tim

TR4man

5,526 posts

203 months

Sunday 6th November 2016
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Well? Come on, let's have some more information and pictures!

S47

1,356 posts

209 months

Sunday 6th November 2016
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Lotus TC is a good engine if maintained properly by a knowledgable owner, if you pay someone else to look after it for you its gonna be unreliable IMO.
A friend has a 'Modernised' Lotus TC in his 1971 elan. It has TB's and an emerald ECU, modded head and high lift cams - it gives a genuine 147 BHP - it also has an electric water pump which eliminates the old mecahnical pump, which is a source of many TC's problems.
On the other hand another mate has a spyder 2litre Zetec engined Elan +2 again with TB's and emerald, this time the engine is standard except for the TB's, it gives a genuine 162BHP. Both are nice to drive but given a choice I'd buy the Zetec car everytime - the Lotus engine is expensive were it to ever fail - the zetec can be picked up from the local scrappy for £50 or so - IMO it's a no brainer smile

littleredrooster

6,358 posts

225 months

Sunday 6th November 2016
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Please tell me it's a +2 S130/4 in Norfolk Yellow and hasn't been on the road since 1998; I've been wondering what happened to my old one for years!

Equus

16,980 posts

130 months

Sunday 6th November 2016
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S47 said:
... the Lotus engine is expensive were it to ever fail - the zetec can be picked up from the local scrappy for £50 or so - IMO it's a no brainer smile
...and the people who were converting Elans to Crossflow engines back in the 1970's and '80's almost certainly thought the same thing. wink