Previous tenant getting parking charge notices
Previous tenant getting parking charge notices
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BertBert

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21,292 posts

241 months

Saturday 5th November 2016
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I have been in my flat for some 3 months. The previous tenant is getting a lot of post with private parking charge notices. I have the new address and have been forwarding. How nice I am. On the basis that they do not appear to be planning on paying the charges nor changing the address on the v5, I expect that the charges will escalate to court action.

How long do we think that will take? Will it affect me/my credit record by association with the address?

Cheers
Bert

paintman

7,860 posts

220 months

Saturday 5th November 2016
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You could always return to sender with a note written on the envelope.

Red Devil

13,524 posts

238 months

Saturday 5th November 2016
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BertBert said:
How long do we think that will take?
Depends on who the creditor is and their appetite for litigation

BertBert said:
Will it affect me/my credit record by association with the address?
No - http://www.experian.co.uk/consumer/questions/askja...

The 'big 3' CRAs are Callcredit, Equifax and Experian.
Everyone should do a regular credit health check.

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

200 months

Saturday 5th November 2016
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paintman said:
You could always return to sender with a note written on the envelope.
Agreed.

We still have the occasional letter addressed to the previous owners of our house, and this all gets shoved back in the post box with "not known at this address".

Seems to be working as it is getting a lot less nowadays.



Red Devil

13,524 posts

238 months

Saturday 5th November 2016
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OP, if RTS doesn't work and the correspondence keeps coming,* one effective way to stop it altogether is to open it then contact the sender.

Tell them to get in touch with the landlord/letting agent who will be able to verify that you are not the person they are looking for and that the person named in the letter is no longer resident there nor are they the legal occupier. Do this by phone and follow up in writing enclosing the sender's paperwork. Make sure your letter includes the addressee's name, the sender's reference number, and the date of their correspondence. Do not copy the sender's letter, but do so for yours to them.

Follow this process without any short cuts/omissions.

Before someone tells you it is illegal to open mail, the relevant legislation is The Postal Services Act 2000 Section 84 - http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2000/26/sectio...
In particular sub-section (3). I'm confident you could plead lack of intention to cause detriment and reasonable cause in the vanishingly small likelihood of being prosecuted for it.

 * Why would RTS deter a creditor? Anyone actively seeking to avoid a debt could do this with impunity.

I have been in the same situation as the OP except that it was DCAs not a PPC/local authority/police. RTS proved a complete waste of time. My solution killed it stone dead. Vehicular contraventions and offences are slightly more problematical as the data source is the DVLA and only the current RK can get it to change its records. However it puts the sender on notice that even if they won in court it would be pointless sending a bailff to your front door.

BertBert

Original Poster:

21,292 posts

241 months

Sunday 6th November 2016
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Thanks for the helpful replies. I'll RTS for a while and see what happens. If there's nothing bad for me if they go to court, I'm not that bothered. Cheers
Bert

KevinCamaroSS

13,846 posts

310 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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Agree with Red Devil, and would add, once the letter has been posted through your door it ceases to be 'in the course of delivery' therefore the interfering with mail is irrelevant anyway. Nothing illegal about opening a letter after delivery.

BertBert

Original Poster:

21,292 posts

241 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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KevinCamaroSS said:
Nothing illegal about opening a letter after delivery.
That's the basis I was working under!

ashleyman

7,284 posts

129 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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We've had the same thing. It will never stop unless you can get the owner of the car to register it elsewhere.

Took our guys about 8 months from the day we moved in to the day a collection agent came round.

Most of these debt agencies want some proof that you're not who they're looking for either by showing ID with name and address or AST.

Biker 1

8,595 posts

149 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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I would RTS EVERY time & if/when debt collectors come round, show them as much proof/ID as you can - bills, passport etc.
I got my fingers burnt years ago when someone moved into a house up the road with the same postcode as me. Seems the water board accidentally tagged his meter serial number to my address. I got bills, then final demands, followed by threats of legal action/debt collectors, all addressed to 'Mr Smith'. I stupidly opened them & tried to sort it, but always seemed to get through to Ugg & Ugg in a call centre. Took 3 years to resolve(!!!!)

BertBert

Original Poster:

21,292 posts

241 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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I think I will put a note on the back with the new address on when I RTS and see if that helps as well.
Bert

Red Devil

13,524 posts

238 months

Wednesday 9th November 2016
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Biker 1 said:
I stupidly opened them & tried to sort it, but always seemed to get through to Ugg & Ugg in a call centre. Took 3 years to resolve(!!!!)
If you didn't follow up the call in writing, as I suggested earlier, I'm not surprised that your strategy didn't work.

BertBert said:
I think I will put a note on the back with the new address on when I RTS and see if that helps as well.
Worth a try, but it is just possible that RM might redirect it so the creditor will be none the wiser.
RTS soon becomes a chore, especially if the person being chased is deliberately not updating the DVLA!

BertBert

Original Poster:

21,292 posts

241 months

Wednesday 9th November 2016
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Yes I was sat with an envelope thinking that the RM will redirect to where the person is now, not back to the sender!
Red Devil said:
Worth a try, but it is just possible that RM might redirect it so the creditor will be none the wiser.
RTS soon becomes a chore, especially if the person being chased is deliberately not updating the DVLA!

battered

4,088 posts

177 months

Wednesday 9th November 2016
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Just write "moved away please return" on a few and post them back.

I had a debt collector turn up at my last rented place asking for a previous resident who owed money. I showed him my tenancy and when I'd moved in, proved who I was, told him that if he wanted to find the woman he was asking for he was best off starting his search in Warsaw, and off he went. The letters stopped.

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

188 months

Wednesday 9th November 2016
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ashleyman said:
Most of these debt agencies want some proof that you're not who they're looking for either by showing ID with name and address or AST.
Regardless of what they want, why should any uninvolved party have to prove their identity? It's up to the collector to establish they have the right person, not the 'victim' (for want of a better word) to establish their uninvolvement.

battered

4,088 posts

177 months

Wednesday 9th November 2016
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Rovinghawk said:
Regardless of what they want, why should any uninvolved party have to prove their identity? It's up to the collector to establish they have the right person, not the 'victim' (for want of a better word) to establish their uninvolvement.
shouldn't have to, but if you can't or won't prove who you are then they may need to come back until they are satisfied that you aren't the person they want. This makes it easier to say "Look, here's the tenancy in my name, here's my passport, the person you are after is a woman, I'm clearly not, now FO" than get high minded about it.

BertBert

Original Poster:

21,292 posts

241 months

Wednesday 9th November 2016
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In this case, the person is a female and I am a not. So it would be easy to satisfy that I am not her. Harder to show that she no longer lives there. I'm not expecting it to come to that though.
Bert