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Christhurlow61

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128 posts

159 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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Ok today's chimaera puzzler is my high beam , it seems to work if I pull it back but if I push it forward nothing happens any idea if it's relay or is it the stalk.?

bobfather

11,194 posts

278 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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When you pull back to flash both filaments are powered up and I think they're both powered via the dipped beam fuse (could be wrong but someone will shout up soon if I am). When you click the lever forward it turns off dipped beam and powers the main beam, the main beam has its own fuse. It depends what year the car is as to which fuse that is

Christhurlow61

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128 posts

159 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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Thanks didn't think about fuses because it works when I pull it back

bobfather

11,194 posts

278 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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Christhurlow61 said:
Thanks didn't think about fuses because it works when I pull it back
As I said, when you pull it back the power may come from the dipped beam fuse because it puts both filaments on together. The main beam has its own fuse when you push the lever back. Therefore the main beam will work when you pull it back but not when you push it forward

bobfather

11,194 posts

278 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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Christhurlow61 said:
Thanks didn't think about fuses because it works when I pull it back
As I said, when you pull it back the power may come from the dipped beam fuse because it puts both filaments on together. The main beam has its own fuse when you push the lever back. Therefore the main beam will work when you pull it back but not when you push it forward

ClassiChimi

12,424 posts

172 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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If it's not the fuse it's likely to be the stalk itself. Easy to replace.

Steve_D

13,801 posts

281 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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My answer relates to a 1997 car.

Headlight flash is powered from fuse F17 which is working. It drives the coil of relay 11. Relay 11 is powered by F20 which again is working.

Dip and High beam are powered from F10 via the lights module. Dip works so this must be OK.
This F10 power from the module goes to the stalk and switches between the high beam relay 11 and the dip beam relay 1. If dip (and its relay) are working, and we know the high beam relay works then my assumption is the stalk is at fault.

Steve

Christhurlow61

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128 posts

159 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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I'll check fuses later ,the steering colum has been out a couple off times so maybe has something to do with it

taylormj4

1,597 posts

289 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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As above, pull forwards is headlamp flash and puts both dip and beam on - gives much brighter illumination than just beam.
If you push forward you will see the beam pattern come on and the dip pattern go off.

I quite often drive through a country lane with the flasher held on as the light is so much brighter. Not for long periods though as I suspect the circuitry may not handle the current for too long, although not looked at how it's wired to comment really.

Steve_D

13,801 posts

281 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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Christhurlow61 said:
I'll check fuses later ,the steering colum has been out a couple off times so maybe has something to do with it
If your circuit is the same as my 1997 and my study of the circuit is correct then all of your fuses are working OK.


The signal to the high beam relay comes from only one pin on the stalk be that in flash or high beam mode.
We know it works in flash so its connections and wiring must be good.
In high beam mode it should get its power via the lights module but this is the same supply and pin on the stalk as the dip beam uses and again we know that works therefore it has to be a fault in the stalk switch.

I would unplug the stalk and 'jumper wire' the back of the connector. let me know if you want the pin numbers and wire colours.

Steve


Christhurlow61

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128 posts

159 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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I have just checked every fuse and none are blown so must be stalk yes.?