RE: Venturi Fétish returns to Europe
Wednesday 16th March 2005
Venturi Fétish returns to Europe
Electric sports car production due to start in summer
Venturi's Fétish, the electric sports car, has returned to Monaco from the Los Angeles Motor Show for an official presentation at the 21st International Electric Vehicles Symposium (EVS21).
Rendezvous at the Grimaldi Forum and in the streets of Monaco from 2-6 April to discover and test drive the marque's first, high performance electric car.
Venturi owner Gildo Pallanca Pastor is optimistic that the production can start next summer. The Fétish is the first production electric sports car in automobile history. With a monocoque carbon chassis the vehicle weighs 750Kg without batteries, 1,100 Kg with batteries. It offers 350 km of autonomy and accelerates from 0-62 mph in under five seconds. Pastor wants to sell 25 cars a year at a price of 540,000 euros, including VAT (about £368,000).
Discussion
Interesting and brave. At £368,000 its close to Enzo money for a car which has Lotus Exige performance.
As a rich boys toy I am sure it will impress non-motoring people in a pub conversation.
Electric cars should have been developed years ago but thanks to the oil giants, developers have been dissauded. This vehicle does nothing for the growth in electric vehicles, it just pushes them out of the reach of your average buyer IMO.
As a rich boys toy I am sure it will impress non-motoring people in a pub conversation.
Electric cars should have been developed years ago but thanks to the oil giants, developers have been dissauded. This vehicle does nothing for the growth in electric vehicles, it just pushes them out of the reach of your average buyer IMO.
Why are people still trying to make electric cars? I'm just hoping joe-public doesn't feel they're being green for driving them - just becuase inner city london would get a little cleaner (ok, a lot) if everybody used electric cars, the rest of the world would suffer more!!! Grrr!
And then somebody tries to make a sports car out of the technology!
When will the madness end???
And then somebody tries to make a sports car out of the technology!
When will the madness end???
I wondered what had happened to this car. I ALMOST ordered one about 2/3 years ago when it was first shown as a concept (even had the order form). But at that time it was seen as being an alternative Elise, probably with the Renault V6 engine and was due to be in production within a year.
So what went wrong???
>> Edited by Aero8 on Thursday 17th March 08:05
So what went wrong???
>> Edited by Aero8 on Thursday 17th March 08:05
one of the many many problems with electic power is the batteries they may be good for a few miles driving gently but drive that thing like a sports car an they'l likly be flat in 15 mins also the weight 750 without bats 1100 with thats 350kg the weight of 2 pretty heavy 4 pots until they find a power source that can pack in as much power as a tank of petrol it wont be replaced
peter450 said:
one of the many many problems with electic power is the batteries they may be good for a few miles driving gently but drive that thing like a sports car an they'l likly be flat in 15 mins also the weight 750 without bats 1100 with thats 350kg the weight of 2 pretty heavy 4 pots until they find a power source that can pack in as much power as a tank of petrol it wont be replaced
You are absolutely correct. Siemens AG have been pioneering fuel-cell technology for the last ten years, and I think it will become a reality in the next ten years. Lead acid/gel batteries are not the way forward.
But there are the options of tidal, wave, wind and nuclear. Look at the pace with which mobile phone batteries have advanced, they are expensive but mass production costs could bring them down.
Of course bio fuels are also a good option, I have done quite a few miles on biodiesel in the last year. According to the owner of the garage I buy the diesel from British Sugar have plans for a biopetrol plant - but only if the tax comes down. Which isn't likely as the high duties on fuel are only there to bring in money and not to help the environment.
Of course bio fuels are also a good option, I have done quite a few miles on biodiesel in the last year. According to the owner of the garage I buy the diesel from British Sugar have plans for a biopetrol plant - but only if the tax comes down. Which isn't likely as the high duties on fuel are only there to bring in money and not to help the environment.
Battery technology has moved on vastly. However the technology is not green. Who recycles Mobile phone batteries these days? Most people just chuck them in the bin.
They end up getting thrown into land fill sites where their poisonous chemicals are fed straight into the water table, like Zinc carbon and zinc chloride, Alkaline manganese, Lithium manganese, and Nickel cadmium to name just a few. Defo not the way forward. They are also expensive to manufacture and the sites are also not green as they emmit lots more toxic chemicals into the atmosphere, even after passing through environmental filters. On a car, the battery packs can make up to half the weight of the car. This then requires more energy and power to move that weight so battery technology or energy storage has a long way to go.
If the respective governments had started to actively and agressively get their acts together ten years ago, we probably would be seeing technology in motion by now. As usual its still a pipe dream and one thats still in the control of the oil giants
They end up getting thrown into land fill sites where their poisonous chemicals are fed straight into the water table, like Zinc carbon and zinc chloride, Alkaline manganese, Lithium manganese, and Nickel cadmium to name just a few. Defo not the way forward. They are also expensive to manufacture and the sites are also not green as they emmit lots more toxic chemicals into the atmosphere, even after passing through environmental filters. On a car, the battery packs can make up to half the weight of the car. This then requires more energy and power to move that weight so battery technology or energy storage has a long way to go.
If the respective governments had started to actively and agressively get their acts together ten years ago, we probably would be seeing technology in motion by now. As usual its still a pipe dream and one thats still in the control of the oil giants
I think some of you are barking up the wrong tree.
The point of these vehicles is not the (lack of) green issue. It's that you can have a performance car which costs a couple of hundred a year to run, instead of multiple thosands of pounds for petrol. Plus they would be virtually maintainence free, cutting costs even further.
The point of these vehicles is not the (lack of) green issue. It's that you can have a performance car which costs a couple of hundred a year to run, instead of multiple thosands of pounds for petrol. Plus they would be virtually maintainence free, cutting costs even further.
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