Not sure about price?
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I am looking to sell my Tuscan SP6 but I am not sure about what price to sell it at. I have rang round a few dealers and they are offereing £20-23K for a used car, but most in a 60 mile radius from where I live in Hampshire are selling for around the £27-28K mark.
I am getting confused about howmuch my car is actually worth - it is a Y plate 2001 car, 18 inch spider alloys, leather interior and has 24,000 miles on the clock and has an entire new cylinder head (not a rebuilt one) to 2004 spec. How much should I be selling this car for?????
I am getting confused about howmuch my car is actually worth - it is a Y plate 2001 car, 18 inch spider alloys, leather interior and has 24,000 miles on the clock and has an entire new cylinder head (not a rebuilt one) to 2004 spec. How much should I be selling this car for?????
jkyle69 said:
I am looking to sell my Tuscan SP6 but I am not sure about what price to sell it at. I have rang round a few dealers and they are offereing £20-23K for a used car, but most in a 60 mile radius from where I live in Hampshire are selling for around the £27-28K mark.
I am getting confused about howmuch my car is actually worth - it is a Y plate 2001 car, 18 inch spider alloys, leather interior and has 24,000 miles on the clock and has an entire new cylinder head (not a rebuilt one) to 2004 spec. How much should I be selling this car for?????
HHC have a similar spec crystal topaz 00 W car with 21k on the clock on the forecourt for £23995.
www.hhctvr.co.uk
Hmmm... you've not given enough details for me to come up with a magic figure for you to price it at (which could well be wrong anyway). Knowing the exterior/interior colour combination, service history (full TVR? When was it last serviced?), stone chips, state of tyres, and any upgrades would help pin it down more.
I think you're looking at about a 21.5-24.5-27.5 split on it though:
£21.5k at a dealer, if you're lucky
£24.5k for a quick-ish private sale (once all haggling's done, and assuming it's not a really desirable/awful colour)
£27.5k from a dealer
So, assuming it's "average" on all counts, I'd probably:
* Advertise it at £26,000 (well, £25,995).
* Hope for £25,500.
* Realistically expect £25,000.
* Accept £24-24,500 if you don't want to remain a member of club Tusc for more than a week or two longer.
If it doesn't sell in a month, drop all figures above by £500-1k.
If it's JUST been serviced, has new tyres, drives without ANY tramlining, is in crystal topaz with grey interior, has air-con, has DAB, etc. etc. then obviously the figure'll go up (£500-£1k more, maybe if all of the above). Similarly a load of stone chips, worn tyres, in bright purple with red/brown & yellow interior, tramlines, and had none of the option boxes ticked, I'd knock £500-1k off the price (actually, probably more). Prices may pick up by £500 or so in a month's time when buying-season really begins.
Of course, I could be completely wrong.
I think you're looking at about a 21.5-24.5-27.5 split on it though:
£21.5k at a dealer, if you're lucky
£24.5k for a quick-ish private sale (once all haggling's done, and assuming it's not a really desirable/awful colour)
£27.5k from a dealer
So, assuming it's "average" on all counts, I'd probably:
* Advertise it at £26,000 (well, £25,995).
* Hope for £25,500.
* Realistically expect £25,000.
* Accept £24-24,500 if you don't want to remain a member of club Tusc for more than a week or two longer.
If it doesn't sell in a month, drop all figures above by £500-1k.
If it's JUST been serviced, has new tyres, drives without ANY tramlining, is in crystal topaz with grey interior, has air-con, has DAB, etc. etc. then obviously the figure'll go up (£500-£1k more, maybe if all of the above). Similarly a load of stone chips, worn tyres, in bright purple with red/brown & yellow interior, tramlines, and had none of the option boxes ticked, I'd knock £500-1k off the price (actually, probably more). Prices may pick up by £500 or so in a month's time when buying-season really begins.
Of course, I could be completely wrong.
It has had the full engine rebuild at the factory so that is a plus (if it really means anything to be honest - but lets not start that one again...)
I was looking for £25K for the car. I have looked on the autotrader website there is no Tuscan for sale within £60 miles with that mileage and age for less than £27K. I am not greedy so I was thinking £25K (after haggling) - and it does have a warranty on the engine rebuild work fromt he factory for 12 months. The colour is red (seems metallic to me) with cream leather interior. Does this seem reasonable?
I was looking for £25K for the car. I have looked on the autotrader website there is no Tuscan for sale within £60 miles with that mileage and age for less than £27K. I am not greedy so I was thinking £25K (after haggling) - and it does have a warranty on the engine rebuild work fromt he factory for 12 months. The colour is red (seems metallic to me) with cream leather interior. Does this seem reasonable?
Forgot to say that yes the car does have a full service history, I am getting the paint chips on the front sorted out with a respray so there will be none. Tyres are average condition, cars has 18" spider alloys also. The car has got the newer accelerator cable attachment mechanism installed as the old one was faulty. I was going to advertis the car at £25995.
jkyle69 said:
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Forget the "within 60 miles" thing. If you're selling privately, it's a national game, as the backup & support of the seller will be the same (i.e. nil) wherever you are. I'd only compare "Local area prices" if buying from a dealer that I wanted support from.
Would stand by my classification of the car as "average", and the prices I gave. If it doesn't drive right (tramlining, skittish), has rattles/squeaks/etc. then you'll put plenty of buyers off (those that know what to look for at least). Bear this in mind when looking at things to spend a few pounds on fixing when prepping it for sale.
jkyle69 said:
has rattles/squeaks/etc??? I have not been in one TVR yet that does not have a wide range of rattles and squeaks lol
Agreed most TVR`s have squeaks and rattles, obviously JSG has been lucky if all his Tivs have been as quite as a mouse, to say it would put off buyers is B******s
IMHO i would be more concerned at other aspects of the car, would you turn down a perfect car except it had a rattle on the roof?
Nope i didn`t think so. Good look with your sale you will need it with all the negative threads on here.
T88CAN said:
has rattles/squeaks/etc??? I have not been in one TVR yet that does not have a wide range of rattles and squeaks lol
Agreed most TVR`s have squeaks and rattles, obviously JSG has been lucky if all his Tivs have been as quite as a mouse, to say it would put off buyers is B******s
IMHO i would be more concerned at other aspects of the car, would you turn down a perfect car except it had a rattle on the roof?
Not quite what I was saying, really. Given that most rattles/squeaks are roof panels, and can be fixed for £2 worth of clear tape and an hour of labour, it'd be silly not to do if you're going to the trouble of having the front end resprayed, etc. If it came down to two identical cars, one riddled with errant noises, and one without, I know which I'd put my money on. More importantly, serious dash rattles are a few hundred quid to fix (bl**dy labour intensive) and make the car sound like it's falling apart - particularly off-putting to someone coming from a previously more Teutonic ownership experience (especially if they've already driven one that had NO rattles or squeaks). For what it's worth, neither my Tusc nor Cerb nor Elise had any such niggling noises. Every now and then one would crop up, and I'd take an hour to track it down and solve it. A good sign of a loved car.
The "rattles/etc" was also alluding to vibrations through the steering wheel and dash pod... clear sign of an unbalanced or dinged wheel. I'd question why an owner hadn't got these things sorted if they really cared for the car.
Basically, if you've got a canny private buyer that's not just smitten with thoughts of owning a Tuscan, and is trying to track down the perfect example that's truly looked after, some things are going to raise questions, and others are going to allay fears. Some of these things are easily solved and sorted (and cost far less than a front end respray), such as niggling noises. To ensure a quick, painless, and financially acceptable sale, I'd do everything I could to act like a "dealer" and prep the car for sale. Especially when there are so many Tuscs out there to pick from. You never know what a buyer has on his or her checklist.
Maybe I'm completely wrong. Maybe I'm wasting my time doing that. But the longest I've ever had any car for sale - Tusc, Cerb, Elise, and numerous others in the past is seven days before I had a deposit in the bank. So I'll keep on paying attention to the details for now.
jkyle69 said:
TVR == perfectly made car??? Seeing as all I read about is people talking about things not working with their cars that is just crap. I'm really sorry, yes the Tuscan looks nice and gives high performance for less money but they are simply not well made period.
Eh? Is this a reply to the right thread?
jkyle69 said:
TVR == perfectly made car??? Seeing as all I read about is people talking about things not working with their cars that is just crap. I'm really sorry, yes the Tuscan looks nice and gives high performance for less money but they are simply not well made period.
I'm not sure that sales patter is going to have the desired effect
It's obviously flawed, I'll give you 10k and a well build beemer for it
J_S_G said:
jkyle69 said:
has rattles/squeaks/etc??? I have not been in one TVR yet that does not have a wide range of rattles and squeaks lol
Agreed most TVR`s have squeaks and rattles, obviously JSG has been lucky if all his Tivs have been as quite as a mouse, to say it would put off buyers is B******s
IMHO i would be more concerned at other aspects of the car, would you turn down a perfect car except it had a rattle on the roof?
More importantly, serious dash rattles are a few hundred quid to fix (bl**dy labour intensive) and make the car sound like it's falling apart - particularly off-putting to someone coming from a previously more Teutonic ownership experience (especially if they've already driven one that had NO rattles or squeaks). For what it's worth, neither my Tusc nor Cerb nor Elise had any such niggling noises. Every now and then one would crop up, and I'd take an hour to track it down and solve it. A good sign of a loved car.
The "rattles/etc" was also alluding to vibrations through the steering wheel and dash pod... clear sign of an unbalanced or dinged wheel. I'd question why an owner hadn't got these things sorted if they really cared for the car.
Basically, if you've got a canny private buyer that's not just smitten with thoughts of owning a Tuscan, and is trying to track down the perfect example that's truly looked after, some things are going to raise questions, and others are going to allay fears. Some of these things are easily solved and sorted (and cost far less than a front end respray), such as niggling noises. To ensure a quick, painless, and financially acceptable sale, I'd do everything I could to act like a "dealer" and prep the car for sale. Especially when there are so many Tuscs out there to pick from. You never know what a buyer has on his or her checklist.
Maybe I'm completely wrong. Maybe I'm wasting my time doing that. But the longest I've ever had any car for sale - Tusc, Cerb, Elise, and numerous others in the past is seven days before I had a deposit in the bank. So I'll keep on paying attention to the details for now.
Seconded.
There is nothing wrong with the car - it is the same as all the other people I have met - had an engine rebuild as well at the factory. All I am saying is that the realitic point is that there seems to be nothing as an absolutely bullet proof TVR. If you buy one be prepared for quirks (and large service and parts bills) and don't be unrealistic. But most people buying them realise this as the fact that they are notorious for not working very well seems to have been well documented across the press and the internet.
jkyle69 said:
If you buy one be prepared for quirks (and large service and parts bills)
Absolutely.
jkyle69 said:
But most people buying them realise this as the fact that they are notorious for not working very well seems to have been well documented across the press and the internet.
Tsk. That's NOT the way to sell a car. If buyers believed the press and the Internet then they'd NEVER buy a Tuscan. They come to you wanting to buy "their new car", not "your old car". If you market it as your cast-off that you've got tired of the upkeep on, you'll not do half as well as if it's their dream car that's been prepped with everything sorted.
Scenario 1:
Buyer: Hmmm, what's that rattling noise from the dash? I've not heard that in the other cars I've tested.
Seller: It's nothing - they all do that.
Buyer: No they don't - the last one I was in didn't.
Outcome: Lie to the buyer, and negative result.
Scenario 2:
Buyer: Hmmm, what's that rattling noise from the dash? I've not heard that in the other cars I've tested.
Seller: Oh, you get used to that
Outcome: Buyer thinks you potentially don't bother with the upkeep on the car
Scenario 3:
Buyer: Hmmm, what's that rattling noise from the dash? I've not heard that in the other cars I've tested.
Seller: I've not got round to fixing that yet
Outcome: Buyer wonders what else you've not got round to fixing
There's NOTHING positive that can come out of such annoying things being left wrong with the car. And, again, for £2 and an hour of your time in most cases, the problem wouldn't be there.
Selling a car doesn't simply consist of picking a price and placing an ad. I should know - the family garage did car sales for long enough, and I started young! Plus, in 9 years of buying and selling my own cars, the sum total of depreciation I've suffered is less-than-zero.
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