Does anyone know this car??
Does anyone know this car??
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rash_decision

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1,435 posts

208 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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As per title really. It's a CAT C, but was curious if anyone here knew how much damage it had sustained?

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/a...

I'm guessing it wouldn't take that much to make this CAT C with the price of bodywork/parts/labour these days. Could it be a cheap '07 for someone?

dbs2000

2,756 posts

223 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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I'd personally avoid a cat C. A few years back me and my friends purchased a write off to loot it for parts. It was a Cat - C. Upon removing some of the internal trim we found the fuel tank had a twist in it that no inspection would have picked up. From the outside the car looked like it had a light shunt.

If you're thinking about it for you then have it inspected, I'd say someone like Works. My sensible voice says "keep saving"

northernmedia

1,988 posts

169 months

Saturday 19th November 2016
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Too much money for a cat C car.
It says minor damage but that kinda goes against its C status.
Have you asked the garage for specifics?
Spend a few more quid and get a straight one is my advice.

abanks

119 posts

127 months

Saturday 19th November 2016
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I agree - Similar non write off cars are available for £5k more. Most insurance companies write off a car if the repair cost is more than 2/3rds of the value of the car. So this car has potentially had £20k worth of damage to it or even more if it was damaged when it was newer. It's a Cat C not Cat D which is the lightest damage. I personally wouldn't touch it.

Edited by abanks on Saturday 19th November 10:18

rash_decision

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1,435 posts

208 months

Saturday 19th November 2016
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I wouldn't touch it personally, but if someone could get it for low 20's, which I think would be more realistic, it could be a cheap car. A friend recently had a repair done to an Audi A3, bonnet replaced, grill replaced and front bumper repainted and the local Audi dealership charged the insurers £2780, so not a lot of damage these days costs a fortune! Defo a car to be inspected prior to potential purchase, and would need to be a keeper I reckon!! I know insurance companies look at the bigger picture, and not just the repairs. Say a wing is on back order, and the customer is gonna be in the courtesy car a fortnight longer than expected, that's potentially another big cost etc etc. Maybe, just maybe it isn't as bad as it seems???

Frances The Mute

1,816 posts

272 months

Saturday 19th November 2016
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It's not even worth investigating further than the advert. They've not gone into any detail as to why it is Cat C and the price is way too optimistic.

There plenty of other cars out there to choose from so make like Dionne Warwick and walk on by.

Jon39

14,990 posts

174 months

Saturday 19th November 2016
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rash_decision said:
I wouldn't touch it personally, but if someone could get it for low 20's, which I think would be more realistic, it could be a cheap car. A friend recently had a repair done to an Audi A3, bonnet replaced, grill replaced and front bumper repainted and the local Audi dealership charged the insurers £2780, so not a lot of damage these days costs a fortune! Defo a car to be inspected prior to potential purchase, and would need to be a keeper I reckon!! I know insurance companies look at the bigger picture, and not just the repairs. Say a wing is on back order, and the customer is gonna be in the courtesy car a fortnight longer than expected, that's potentially another big cost etc etc. Maybe, just maybe it isn't as bad as it seems???

An aspect to bear in mind about this, is that the construction of Aston Martins is different from most cars. The chassis is a complex structure of alloy components, and much of the body and chassis parts are bonded together, not welded. This greatly complicates the repair of serious damage.

There was a topic here a long time ago, about a PH'ers car, suffering serious damage, and which later appeared for sale. The subsequent debate, thought that it was unlikely that the front chassis structure, could have been repaired to the factory original standard.

Hardly any buyers of these cars, would want one which has been damaged.






divetheworld

2,565 posts

166 months

Saturday 19th November 2016
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Jon39 said:

An aspect to bear in mind about this, is that the construction of Aston Martins is different from most cars. The chassis is a complex structure of alloy components, and much of the body and chassis parts are bonded together, not welded. This greatly complicates the repair of serious damage.

There was a topic here a long time ago, about a PH'ers car, suffering serious damage, and which later appeared for sale. The subsequent debate, thought that it was unlikely that the front chassis structure, could have been repaired to the factory original standard.

Hardly any buyers of these cars, would want one which has been damaged.
This - http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=160...

Jon39

14,990 posts

174 months

Saturday 19th November 2016
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divetheworld said:

No not that.

It was a serious road collision.
A sad tale, one that we don't want to resurrect.


JohnG1

3,487 posts

236 months

Saturday 19th November 2016
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rash_decision said:
As per title really. It's a CAT C, but was curious if anyone here knew how much damage it had sustained?

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/a...

I'm guessing it wouldn't take that much to make this CAT C with the price of bodywork/parts/labour these days. Could it be a cheap '07 for someone?
A low speed rear end shut in a v12V (that I know about) had a £15k Bill, so it could be written off with very little structural damage - this would retail around, what, £36k?

But, these cars are not easy to repair. Unless it's a bolt on/off panel they get expensive. If the tub is twisted - the part alone is something like £18k. And then you need to pay AML a lot of money to remanufacture around the new tub.

Or the crash structures could have deformed in the impact and then been stretched out on a jig.

Either pay for a professional written opinion on the vehicle by one of a handleful of non-dealer engineers OR you potentially take your life (and your loves one, and other road users) into your hands every time you drive it.

Anyone talking about the "Aston tax" and how they are easy to repair but dealers make a fortune - is talking rubbish.

Get a written report of what happened, insurance assessment for Cat C plus independent assessment or just walk on by...

divetheworld

2,565 posts

166 months

Saturday 19th November 2016
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Jon39 said:
divetheworld said:

No not that.

It was a serious road collision.
A sad tale, one that we don't want to resurrect.
Ah, a. certain V8S with a name. Still, the stuff quoted illustrates how easy a small amount of damage can be catastrophic.

rash_decision

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1,435 posts

208 months

Saturday 19th November 2016
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Jeez oh! That V8 that was written off for the damage caused due to incorrect jacking is quite startling! I wonder how many cars are driving about with similar damage, that has gone un-noticed, or not given the same attention!?

I'm guilty of going to 3rd party tyre places for new rubber, and never give it a thought to double check where they lift it from, or check for damage afterwards! I've also lifted a few cars in a similar way on the drive! Oops!!

Edited by rash_decision on Saturday 19th November 19:38