Taking bike on plane - easy?
Taking bike on plane - easy?
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torqueofthedevil

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2,088 posts

206 months

Saturday 19th November 2016
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I am planning a quick trip to Spain to see a mate and have a few days cycling there. There don't seem to be too many options for bike hire where I am going so I am considering taking my bike in a cardboard bike box - I have watched videos on how to strip them down and protect them.

I am just wondering, if I have to remove the rear derailleur - when I reattach it, will it need adjusting / indexing etc.? as I don't know how to do it.

Cheers.

The_Jackal

4,854 posts

226 months

Saturday 19th November 2016
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You shouldnt have to but it is something you should know how to do anyway, it is very easy unless you have bent your rear mech hanger.
Again there are lots of good videos on how to do it. GCN are pretty good.

Rich_W

12,548 posts

241 months

Saturday 19th November 2016
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I'd genuinely consider renting a hard bike box.

I used http://www.bikebox-online.co.uk/ previously (the Windsor one)

RE the Indexing, as above shouldn't matter. But my bike did not enjoy being stripped and rebuilt. So there was some fettling required on location and when I returned. Su take ALL the tools for the bike you can.

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What happened with mine was that in transit the rear gear cable popped out of its stop inside the frame (internal routing) Once I figured out what had happened it was ok to sort. I didn't remove the rear mech. Just the bars, pedals and seat tube (which in fairness I possibly didn't need to)

Edited by Rich_W on Sunday 20th November 11:22

Celtic Dragon

3,350 posts

264 months

Saturday 19th November 2016
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Didn't have a problem with mine when I flew earlier this year, I just followed the video mentioned above. Had to realign the brakes when I put it back together, but I always have to do that after dropping the wheels out. The curse of 9mm QR.

JEA1K

2,747 posts

252 months

Saturday 19th November 2016
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Each to their own but I'd rent a bike box. I borrowed two boxes of mates when I went to Mallorca last month ... even those didn't escape unscathed but I dread to think what state the bikes would have been in had they not been in hard cases.

Also, another tip, take a larger pump ... a frame mounted pump would be perfect. Pumping up 4 tyres to 80 psi with a mini pump was an absolute ball ache! smile

Gruffy

7,212 posts

288 months

Saturday 19th November 2016
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I've flown twice with mine hastily packed into a scavenged cardboard box. Absolutely fine both times (BA and Sleazy) but, as above, that's no guarantee of continued success. I tape my helmet around the rear mech and started with decent 'new bike' cardboard boxes from local LBSs. I also write bicycle and fragile all over the box in whatever language the local throwers use.

JustinF

6,795 posts

232 months

Saturday 19th November 2016
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I tape my helmet over the mech, job jobbed.

gazza285

11,113 posts

237 months

Saturday 19th November 2016
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Celtic Dragon said:
Had to realign the brakes when I put it back together, but I always have to do that after dropping the wheels out. The curse of 9mm QR.
You are doing it wrong then, there is no reason to have to adjust anything after removing a wheel.

battered

4,088 posts

176 months

Saturday 19th November 2016
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No problem. Done it a few times, no re-indexing required.

JustinF

6,795 posts

232 months

Saturday 19th November 2016
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gazza285 said:
You are doing it wrong then, there is no reason to have to adjust anything after removing a wheel.
tbf there is if you don't take appropriate precautions with hydraulic brakes, if the lever gets depressed with the wheel out the pistons will close; you need a shim between the pistons or something solid between lever and bar.

HardtopManual

2,904 posts

195 months

Sunday 20th November 2016
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I've flown with my bike in an Evoc bike bag a few times now and never had any issues. Yes, rear derailleur removed and no, you don't need to adjust it when you bolt it back on as the cable tension doesn't change.

Mate of mine has a hard case and it has taken quite a few knocks when flying - a hole through the plastic, a snapped wheel.

I tend to agree with the school of thought that says baggage handlers will chuck a hard case around with gay abandon, but be more gently with a soft case.

If you're not going to fly again, just go to your LBS and ask them for a cardboard bike box, they should give you it for free.

ALawson

8,054 posts

280 months

Sunday 20th November 2016
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I have borrowed Dowks (cheer so Simon) BBA twice, rear mech was out second time but generally no issues, other chaps also use the same type of box and have taken bikes between them over twenty with no issues.

We did see this in Tenerife last month, where baggage handlers normally look after bikes!

Only a crapper by the look of things but makes the point.


gazza285

11,113 posts

237 months

Sunday 20th November 2016
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JustinF said:
gazza285 said:
You are doing it wrong then, there is no reason to have to adjust anything after removing a wheel.
tbf there is if you don't take appropriate precautions with hydraulic brakes, if the lever gets depressed with the wheel out the pistons will close; you need a shim between the pistons or something solid between lever and bar.
Or just push the pistons back in, hardly a realignment.

smifffymoto

5,186 posts

234 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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The picture isn't a proper bike box though is it,just a few packing boxes taped togethet.

ALawson

8,054 posts

280 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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smifffymoto said:
The picture isn't a proper bike box though is it,just a few packing boxes taped togethet.
Now you mention it, you are correct!

I suppose if you do use a cardboard one make sure there is a TV printed on the side.

Edited by ALawson on Monday 21st November 11:33

okgo

42,085 posts

227 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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Yes its easy, I've personally never bothered taking the mech off, but I only would use bikeboxalan or similar, IMO you would be an idiot not to use one of the very hard cases. Airport staff are not known for their subtle approaching to moving things

TwistingMyMelon

6,506 posts

234 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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Take a spare rear mech hanger, as obviously often they are specific to the bike and hard to get when abroad, don't really take up any space anyway. Probs good idea to take a spare gear cable to be prepared. A couple of mates have had hanger issues when travelling abroad and could find a shop to do repairs but no chance of getting parts specific to the bike so bodged it and spent 3 days in the alps with a 39/23 as the lowest gear as that's all the rear mech hanger could stretch to!

I'd rather hire a bike abroad , but if no options then id hire a box and use it and be prepared to do a bit of adjustment and indexing when at destination

upsidedownmark

2,120 posts

164 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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Personally I always pop the mech off, it's a no-adjustment re-attach (just undo the centre of the pivot and do it up properly afterwards). On my TT bike the hanger is part of the frame and not replaceable, so not taking any chances! As okgo, I wouldn't travel in anything other than a hard case - they can lob it as much as they like in a bikebox alan, even if they take care (unlikely), accidents can happen, and cardboard isn't what you'd call protective.

There should be no need to index or adjust anything really - if there is, something got bent or leaned on.

P-Jay

11,401 posts

220 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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I remove the hanger, brake callipers and bars (mtb).

Pack the wheels with the discs on the inside of the bag.

I use a £100 fabric CRC bag; I'd love a hard case but with a DH bike it's hard enough getting it under the 32Kgs absolute limit.

Turn up early as you need to check-in twice (once for you, then once again at over-sized luggage).

Expect to get done over on fees, even if you pre-book.

Expect to wait a long time for it to arrive at the other end.

I've been doing it for nearly 10 years on and off, one bent disc and accompanying boot print on the bag where they stood on it, and one that failed to arrive until the next flight.

The airline you use doesn’t matter in regards to how it’s handled behind the scenes, the chuckers are employed by the airport, but if it has to be put on the next flight BA might bring it to you, Sleazyjet will probably want you to pick it up from the airport.

stripy7

806 posts

216 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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Few points:
Insure your bike- maximum compensation for lost/broken is only circa £1k, and then it takes months via the airline.
Your bike will need to be inspected by security, on long haul, multiple times, that well packed cardboard box wont be as well packed at the end.
There's a very real chance that your bike will be bounced off a flight if the gross luggage allowance of the flight is exceeded.
Label everything and take photos prior.