When people go to a dentist....
Discussion
Gazboy said:
Why do people feel the need to bring their kids for a check-up when their kids have got the lot- running nose, a cough, shakes, or even the flu. FFS they are sitting there with their gobs open spewing their bugs over the staff- who in turn catch whatever little snotty Jonny has. Personaly I would fine the parents £1000 per kid.
Yeah, my ex used to moan about this all the time, she's a Dental Nurse. Also people who eat pickled onion Monster Munch before there visit, or people who feed their kids stuff like that before taking them.
Gazboy said:
Why do people feel the need to bring their kids for a check-up when their kids have got the lot- running nose, a cough, shakes, or even the flu. FFS they are sitting there with their gobs open spewing their bugs over the staff- who in turn catch whatever little snotty Jonny has. Personaly I would fine the parents £1000 per kid.
Ha! Try getting another appointment!
I think the recruitment process for dental receptionists goes along the lines of "Are you a member of the Nazi party? Yes? Good, when can you start?"
Well I have to wait until May to get my tooth fixed, I broke a front tooth (one of the 'goofy' ones - that is a technical term!) Thats on the NHS.
I'm trying to go private, but it will probably cost a fortune.
Not so worried about the sensitivity issue, I just hate looking like a Pikey.
I'm trying to go private, but it will probably cost a fortune.
Not so worried about the sensitivity issue, I just hate looking like a Pikey.
Gazboy said:
Why do people feel the need to bring their kids for a check-up when their kids have got the lot- running nose, a cough, shakes, or even the flu. FFS they are sitting there with their gobs open spewing their bugs over the staff- who in turn catch whatever little snotty Jonny has. Personaly I would fine the parents £1000 per kid.
....and what should a parent do? They have managed to get an appointment after eventually finding a dentist and waiting god-knows-how-long. Only for their child to be off school ill (and there is a lot going around at the moment). What do they do?
Cancel the appointment and spend god-knows-how-long waiting for another one?
Try and locate some form of childcare? - knowing damn well NO ONE will take them
Or
Just go to the appointment since they have no other real alternative? This country is diabolical for support of parents and knowledge of how we are supposed to deal with children. This is one example. Uncompromising attitudes to those who have children are unhelpful I am afraid..... just you wait until you have them - you will understand the daily challenges that businesses / services and just about everything else throw up in your face..... its a big joke at our expense...
My dentist has big signs up everywhere saying if you don't come there for 15 months you will be taken off the nhs list. They have changed check ups so they are now every 12 months rather than six. If, for whatever reason, you can't make it for your check up and re book they are so booked up you run the risk of going over the 15 months so they will kick you off the list.
I think both the dentistry profession and recent governments are to blame for this.
I think both the dentistry profession and recent governments are to blame for this.
Well, all I know is that my records have been removed from my local Dental Practice, and I can't book an appointment until May, I have a very painful broken tooth, which is unsightly.
My NHS practice couldn't have been less helpful, their attitude stank.
I phoned a private practice, really helpful, but due to everyone avoiding the NHS waiting list... there is a waiting list
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarggghh!
My NHS practice couldn't have been less helpful, their attitude stank.
I phoned a private practice, really helpful, but due to everyone avoiding the NHS waiting list... there is a waiting list
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarggghh!
MILF said:
Can someone axplain to me why, if my leg happens to fall off, the NHS will very kindly re attach it for me, but if my tooth falls out, I have to pay an absolute fortune for it ?
I pay my National Insurance every month and have done since I started working, wo why the difference ?
To simplify things right down: Because the NHS pay Doctors, Nurses etc a wage, but not Dentists. They receive a contribution from the NHS for each patient / treatment, which barely covers the cost of the mouthwash you spit out.
Please feel free to correct / elaborate on this, I'm sure my girlfriend will this evening! (she's busy pullin' teeth as we speak)
off_again said:
Why do people feel the need to bring their kids for a check-up when their kids have got the lot- running nose, a cough, shakes, or even the flu. FFS they are sitting there with their gobs open spewing their bugs over the staff- who in turn catch whatever little snotty Jonny has. Personaly I would fine the parents £1000 per kid.
....and what should a parent do? They have managed to get an appointment after eventually finding a dentist and waiting god-knows-how-long. Only for their child to be off school ill (and there is a lot going around at the moment). What do they do?
Cancel the appointment and spend god-knows-how-long waiting for another one?
Try and locate some form of childcare? - knowing damn well NO ONE will take them
Or
Just go to the appointment since they have no other real alternative? This country is diabolical for support of parents and knowledge of how we are supposed to deal with children. This is one example. Uncompromising attitudes to those who have children are unhelpful I am afraid..... just you wait until you have them - you will understand the daily challenges that businesses / services and just about everything else throw up in your face..... its a big joke at our expense...
This country is diabolical for support of parents and knowledge of how we are supposed to deal with children.
As a Director of a children,s charity I agree wholeheartidely if the powers that be put money and expertise in,in the first place long term issues arising just would not be there.
Children are this countries future,they are the worlds future and so as such they should be respected and given all the hlep and assitance they need to live happy and fruitful lives.
The NHS actually employs fewer dentists than you might think. The majority of dentists providing NHS dentistry as general dental practitioners (GDPs) are in fact self employed and the NHS sub-contracts to them, historicaly, on a patient by patient basis. Under the new contract some dentists sub contract under PDS. Payments are made to the dentist mainly on the amount of work done on that patient with the fees set by the government. Dentist have a choice over what patients they see and whether they are prepared to do whatever work is required on the NHS or privately or a mixture of both for unregistered patients. Patients registered by a dentist on the NHS are entitled to NHS dentistry.
So for many dentists it's a choice between the NHS fee and a private fee for the same work. It takes a certain income to run a practice and pay a reasonable income. Calculated at an hourly rate some NHS items of treatment are simply not viable. My refusal to offer certain items of treatment on the NHS is because I don't want to work for free or subsidise my patients with my own money.
Given the choice between cheap NHS treatment and realisticaly priced private treatment many people vote with their wallets. The choice between no treatment and private treatment is a different ball game.
So for many dentists it's a choice between the NHS fee and a private fee for the same work. It takes a certain income to run a practice and pay a reasonable income. Calculated at an hourly rate some NHS items of treatment are simply not viable. My refusal to offer certain items of treatment on the NHS is because I don't want to work for free or subsidise my patients with my own money.
Given the choice between cheap NHS treatment and realisticaly priced private treatment many people vote with their wallets. The choice between no treatment and private treatment is a different ball game.
As an amusing aside: My girlfriend (the dentist) took up the profession because of a Ferrari!
She was visiting her dentist at about 8 years old, saw her dentist's Ferrari and asked her dad:
"How can I get one of those, Daddy?"
"Well, you'll have to become a dentist"
So she did.
She's a pistonhead at heart
Good job too, considering how much I spend on cars!
She was visiting her dentist at about 8 years old, saw her dentist's Ferrari and asked her dad:
"How can I get one of those, Daddy?"
"Well, you'll have to become a dentist"
So she did.
She's a pistonhead at heart
Good job too, considering how much I spend on cars!Gazboy said:
Can someone axplain to me why, if my leg happens to fall off, the NHS will very kindly re attach it for me, but if my tooth falls out, I have to pay an absolute fortune for it ?
I pay my National Insurance every month and have done since I started working, wo why the difference ?
Because the NHS seriously mucks around the dentists (they don't work for free) regarding re-embursemnt for work done, which is why an NHS dentist is now a rare sight. My wife's practice is 50% NHS, 50% private- guess which 50% have by far the worst teeth, maybe if people paid for their treatments, they'd look after what they've got.
Why is there this great division between dentists and all the rest of the medical profession? Heart, stomach, arse etc. specialists are all doctors, but teeth specialists are dentists and have a completely separate set of organisations. It seems weird to me.
Gazboy said:
Yes the NI is a point, but why do people begrudge paying for a check up, when they pay for beauty therapy (leg wax, hair cuts, hair dyed, nails, manicures, pedicures, back, crack and sack wax etc.
Because those don't hurt if you don't do them?
Gazboy said:
How many people here have NHS glasses? Or did you pay out of your own money?
Yeah. And why is a bit of bent wire so fukking expensive?
Gazboy said:Doesn't happen to practice in Thame on a Friday does she? The second practice I phoned up last week looking for a dentist offered me an appointment for a check up the very next day. I was amazed.
Shame you don't live near me- my wife would have you fixed by this time next week.
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