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Ive just been informed about a letter addressed to my company from Avon police, demanding the driver details from an incident 3 weeks ago!
On suspicion of:
Driving without Due Care And Attention.
Causing a road traffic collision.
Leaving the scene of an accident.
1: I'm the only driver, so can't blame anyone else
2: Ive no ideas at my exact location 3 weeks ago, however i recognise the road name, which is a single track lane which i occasionally use.
3: Ive no recollection of any accidents (or near misses) at this location.
4: There is no damage on my van suggesting I've been in an accident.
5: I've not had a call from my insurer, if i had crashed into someone i would have expected the insurer to have called me within 3 weeks!
So im all a bit stumped, as to what I've done..
Ive no problems passing the "accident" thing on to my insurers to figure out...
But the driving with no due care and attention has me slightly worried, Surely they would need some form of evidence?
Rather than a member of the public's opinion?
Will obviously pass on my details ASAP, but anyone any experience with how these situations usually pan out?
Cheers
It never rains, but it pours
On suspicion of:
Driving without Due Care And Attention.
Causing a road traffic collision.
Leaving the scene of an accident.
1: I'm the only driver, so can't blame anyone else
2: Ive no ideas at my exact location 3 weeks ago, however i recognise the road name, which is a single track lane which i occasionally use.
3: Ive no recollection of any accidents (or near misses) at this location.
4: There is no damage on my van suggesting I've been in an accident.
5: I've not had a call from my insurer, if i had crashed into someone i would have expected the insurer to have called me within 3 weeks!
So im all a bit stumped, as to what I've done..
Ive no problems passing the "accident" thing on to my insurers to figure out...
But the driving with no due care and attention has me slightly worried, Surely they would need some form of evidence?
Rather than a member of the public's opinion?
Will obviously pass on my details ASAP, but anyone any experience with how these situations usually pan out?
Cheers
It never rains, but it pours
A friend of mine received a similar letter from North Wales police. In the end it turned out he wasn't in a collision. An elderly lady had been in a bump with a similar looking car and so when she saw his vehicle which looked the same (blue 3series) she jotted down the reg plate and reported him as the vehicle that had hit her 
Not something he needed as he was dealing with the stress of a wife in her final days of life and the police were demanding he go to the station to make a statement
So basically it could be a similar scenario?
Not something he needed as he was dealing with the stress of a wife in her final days of life and the police were demanding he go to the station to make a statement
So basically it could be a similar scenario?
The offences they've lined up there don't necessarily suggest that you hit someone - playing devil's advocate entirely here, but one scenario would be that you were driving along that single track road and a vehicle coming in the other direction had to dive into a hedge to avoid you. Did anything like that happen?
davepoth said:
The offences they've lined up there don't necessarily suggest that you hit someone - playing devil's advocate entirely here, but one scenario would be that you were driving along that single track road and a vehicle coming in the other direction had chose to dive into a hedge to avoid you. Did anything like that happen?
Edited it a bit for you 
Nope, no near misses.
My only thoughts are, being a single lane, often have to squeeze by someone quite closely.
But i fail to see how its possible to cause damage to another car, without damaging myself...
Will have to wait and find out.
The other thing is, the van has my name and phone number all over in massive writing, so if they managed to get my reg, surely they could have written this down and called it...
My only thoughts are, being a single lane, often have to squeeze by someone quite closely.
But i fail to see how its possible to cause damage to another car, without damaging myself...
Will have to wait and find out.
The other thing is, the van has my name and phone number all over in massive writing, so if they managed to get my reg, surely they could have written this down and called it...
Bristol spark said:
On suspicion of:
Driving without Due Care And Attention.
Causing a road traffic collision.
Leaving the scene of an accident.
The S.172 request is to cover all the bases at this stage.Driving without Due Care And Attention.
Causing a road traffic collision.
Leaving the scene of an accident.
Doesn't mean that you will be charged with all, or even any, of them.
There doesn't have to be any contact with/damage to your vehicle.
The manner of your driving could have caused someone else to have the collision.
It could, as has been said, be someone has noted down a VRM incorrectly so putting you in the frame.
If the alleged offender did a speedy drive off, it wouldn't surprise me if such an error had been made.
Otoh if it was you and there is dash cam footage from the other vehicle(s)...
caelite said:
simoid said:
Is the 14 day thing in play here? OP said 3 weeks.
I think thats only for FPN's. Court summons stuff is 6 months I believe.The allegations below come within the ambit of RTA 1988 S.172(2)(a) - http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/sectio...
Bristol spark said:
Ive just been informed about a letter addressed to my company from Avon police, demanding the driver details from an incident 3 weeks ago!
On suspicion of:
Driving without Due Care And Attention.
Causing a road traffic collision.
Leaving the scene of an accident.
As it's to do with a RTC no NoIP is required. See RTOA 1988(2)(1) - http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/53/sectio... - hence the 14 day rule does not apply.On suspicion of:
Driving without Due Care And Attention.
Causing a road traffic collision.
Leaving the scene of an accident.
It's a S.172 notice so the OP must respond within 28 days from the date of service. See RTA 1988 S.172(7)(a).
14-7 said:
I wouldn't worry too much at this stage but the following statement is worrying.
You need to read his post again, you have misinterpreted what he said. Bristol spark said:
Rather than a member of the public's opinion?
Are you a member of the public that would expect your view to be taken seriously should some idiot in a van crash in to you?Good job you're not a plod, eh?..
OP once you've responded to the S172 they will want to interview you. Make sure they tell you what the allegations are and where they've come from before you potentially incriminate yourself. Obviously you need to listen to what they have to say but if there is no real evidence and you are convinced they are mistaken just keep on denying it.
elanfan said:
OP once you've responded to the S172 they will want to interview you. Make sure they tell you what the allegations are and where they've come from before you potentially incriminate yourself. Obviously you need to listen to what they have to say but if there is no real evidence and you are convinced they are mistaken just keep on denying it.
Or just get the free legal advice you're entitled to at any interview. Thanks Guys, i have just called the "collisions team", to ask for clarification of what I've done.
Im told that: other vehicle stopped to allow passing on narrow lane, and that i hit the rear of the other vehicle with minor damage. (I'm assuming rear-side?)
I find it odd, that i could potentially hit the rear of a vehicle without realising! (and no own damage!)
So I denied knowingly hitting the other vehicle, so she has told me NOT to fill in the form asking for driver details, but to send a covering letter denying the alleged claim.
So do i defiantly not fill in the form, or am i best filling it anyway along with the covering letter.
I would hate to be charged with failing to supply, after being verbally told not to!
She could not tell me if there was actually any evidence.
However it at least does not sound like Im on the most wanted list yet!
Im told that: other vehicle stopped to allow passing on narrow lane, and that i hit the rear of the other vehicle with minor damage. (I'm assuming rear-side?)
I find it odd, that i could potentially hit the rear of a vehicle without realising! (and no own damage!)
So I denied knowingly hitting the other vehicle, so she has told me NOT to fill in the form asking for driver details, but to send a covering letter denying the alleged claim.
So do i defiantly not fill in the form, or am i best filling it anyway along with the covering letter.
I would hate to be charged with failing to supply, after being verbally told not to!
She could not tell me if there was actually any evidence.
However it at least does not sound like Im on the most wanted list yet!
The language you're couching your posts in makes me think you know a lot more than you're letting on.
Also, if someone drove into me and sodded off, my first call would be to the police, not my insurer. In fact, if there wasn't much damage, my only call would be to the police until I knew 100% for certain the other party was insured because I wouldn't be wanting to claim on my own most likely.
Just my 2p.
Bristol spark said:
1: I'm the only driver, so can't blame anyone else
"Can't blame anyone else" not "Couldn't have been anyone else"Bristol spark said:
2: Ive no ideas at my exact location 3 weeks ago, however i recognise the road name, which is a single track lane which i occasionally use.
"No ideas at my exact location 3 weeks ago" not "I wasn't there at that time" or "I was there but definitely wasn't in an accident". Also, if you can't remember if you were on that road 3 weeks ago I would suggest getting checked out for early onset Alzheimers to be honest.Bristol spark said:
3: Ive no recollection of any accidents (or near misses) at this location.
"I've no recollection" not "I was not in an accident at this location"Bristol spark said:
4: There is no damage on my van suggesting I've been in an accident.
5: I've not had a call from my insurer, if i had crashed into someone i would have expected the insurer to have called me within 3 weeks!
These are just really weird things to say. If I received a NIP tomorrow saying I was in an accident 3 weeks ago I wouldn't be posting about whether there was damage on my van or whether my insurance company had contacted me; I'd be asking why the hell I'd received a NIP when I hadn't been in an accident and trying to work out what's gone on. Your posts are just oddly specific and look like mitigation or points of defence when, if it were me, I would mostly be incredulous and trying to understand what had gone on.5: I've not had a call from my insurer, if i had crashed into someone i would have expected the insurer to have called me within 3 weeks!
Also, if someone drove into me and sodded off, my first call would be to the police, not my insurer. In fact, if there wasn't much damage, my only call would be to the police until I knew 100% for certain the other party was insured because I wouldn't be wanting to claim on my own most likely.
Bristol spark said:
So im all a bit stumped, as to what I've done..
"As to what I've done" rather than "As to what I've supposedly done". No denial that you've done something, just that you claim not to know what it is...Bristol spark said:
Im told that: other vehicle stopped to allow passing on narrow lane, and that i hit the rear of the other vehicle with minor damage. (I'm assuming rear-side?)
I find it odd, that i could potentially hit the rear of a vehicle without realising! (and no own damage!)
If this incident happened you would know about it. If it didn't happen, you would be screaming from the rooftops it never happened. Instead you're here making woolly posts with excuses and coming up with a series of convoluted reasons why you think it doesn't look like it could have been a thing that happened.I find it odd, that i could potentially hit the rear of a vehicle without realising! (and no own damage!)
Just my 2p.
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