Meeting called by work i think it might be a discipline meet
Meeting called by work i think it might be a discipline meet
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baldy1926

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2,153 posts

229 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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My other half works as a seimming teacher. She does not get on with her boss who basically is jealous of her.
She was told that the her boss wants to speak to her after work on Monday. My other half has texted her to ask her what tge meeting is about but she will not tell her.

I have a feeling she could turn it into a discipline hearing.
Ive told my misses that if it is a discipline hearing dont say anything just tell them she will speak to her union and leave.
Am i right in thinking you cant be called to a discipline meeting without being told what tge purpose of the meeting is.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,993 posts

264 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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Yes

Needs to be a letter stating what the meeting is about. It also usually refers to COE & right to bring somebody along for support

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,993 posts

264 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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But if she's not been there 2 years life's a bit more simple for employer

baldy1926

Original Poster:

2,153 posts

229 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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She has been there about 10 her boss has been there about 6 months and has made it obvious that she does not like the other half

Ebo100

506 posts

233 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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The ACAS website has a lot of useful information on this subject.

Jasandjules

72,566 posts

258 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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If she has been invited to a disciplinary there are some steps which need to be taken by the employer.

What is her view as to remaining there etc?

slow_poke

1,855 posts

263 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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Not been told the reason, and scheduled for after work?

Decline to attend. Tell them to reschedule for during work hours, or explain what's so important going on that it needs to be handled out of hours.

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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Get clued up on procedures- as has been said, ACAS is a good resource.

Listen more than talk. Say as little as is necessary until you know the full extent of the meeting purpose. Assume nothing

Keep very good notes and write them at the time or as near as possible.

Dont allow yourself to be bullied into agreeing to anything on the spot. Always say you need time to consider.

Don't be afraid to seek professional help if you need it and don't rely on the man in the pub (us) for guidance on anything serious.

tuffer

9,006 posts

296 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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Has she spoken to the HR Dept?

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,993 posts

264 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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slow_poke said:
Not been told the reason, and scheduled for after work?

Decline to attend. Tell them to reschedule for during work hours, or explain what's so important going on that it needs to be handled out of hours.
...or let the put their head in the foul noose. I'd go along & see what the score is. Might be totally innocent.

steve2

1,861 posts

247 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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If she does go get her to put her phone on and record the meeting so she has a record of it

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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steve2 said:
If she does go get her to put her phone on and record the meeting so she has a record of it
That's the thing I would do. Don't get the manager's back up - if it degenerates into "she said/she said" then your OH will lose, but if she appears to be entirely reasonable in the recording and the boss makes a fool of herself then you have something to work with. Probably not admissible in a tribunal but definitely admissible in a grievance or in a compromise agreement.

Charlie1986

2,105 posts

164 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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It may just be a investigation meeting. At the start she will be asked if she wants to have a Rep.

southendpier

6,203 posts

258 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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If it is a disciplinary...and we aren't sure it is..but if it was she doesn't have to do anything. The employer needs to follow the rules and provide her all the support she needs. If they don't and worse case her contract is terminated she will win a tribunal. You don't have to record it etc. BUT of course get as much info before the meeting as possible.

Trabi601

4,865 posts

124 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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baldy1926 said:
My other half works as a seimming teacher. She does not get on with her boss who basically is jealous of her.
This isn't a good start.

I've managed women whose husbands have jumped in on the basis of what their wife has told them. It's very rarely a true representation of facts.

"She's jealous of me". That's your wife's opinion based on her opinion of herself! I can't really understand how the line manager of a swimming instructor is conducting a meeting on the basis of jealousy!

Give 'em each a handbag and let them get on with the bh fight.

Steve Campbell

2,391 posts

197 months

Monday 28th November 2016
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Assume nothing, talk only when required, decide what to do when the facts are on the table.

condor

8,837 posts

277 months

Monday 28th November 2016
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Perhaps it's an appraisal or performance review. Might even be a pay rise smile

Foliage

3,861 posts

151 months

Monday 28th November 2016
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janesmith1950 said:
Get clued up on procedures- as has been said, ACAS is a good resource.

Listen more than talk. Say as little as is necessary until you know the full extent of the meeting purpose. Assume nothing

Keep very good notes and write them at the time or as near as possible.

Dont allow yourself to be bullied into agreeing to anything on the spot. Always say you need time to consider.

Don't be afraid to seek professional help if you need it and don't rely on the man in the pub (us) for guidance on anything serious.

I did this in a 'meeting' that, pretty much the exact same situation, the meeting was halted by the attending HR manager when it became clear my line manager was monologuing like a bond villain and that I was writing everything down. No further action was taken but I took action and my line manager was made redundant after failing to improve (yes he was managed out)

baldy1926

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229 months

Monday 28th November 2016
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Trabi601 said:
baldy1926 said:
My other half works as a seimming teacher. She does not get on with her boss who basically is jealous of her.
This isn't a good start.

I've managed women whose husbands have jumped in on the basis of what their wife has told them. It's very rarely a true representation of facts.

"She's jealous of me". That's your wife's opinion based on her opinion of herself! I can't really understand how the line manager of a swimming instructor is conducting a meeting on the basis of jealousy!

Give 'em each a handbag and let them get on with the bh fight.
Yep im inclined to let them get on with it. I know the classes my misses do are over subscribed and her bosses are half empty. Which i think is grating abit. Im going to take her to work later and see what happens

Monkeylegend

29,145 posts

260 months

Monday 28th November 2016
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baldy1926 said:
Yep im inclined to let them get on with it.
You don't have any choice, it's between your wife and her employers.

Getting yourself actively involved will not end well for your wife.