School - attendance
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surveyor

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18,705 posts

214 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Yesterday we had a general letter about attendance at my daughters school being low. Today we had a targeted one, telling us we were bad parents as attendance this term is at 91% and threatening 'action' if it does not improve.

Now I'm narked. She's had five days off. Two with a pretty bad cold. Three after she was sick, and then not allowed back in for 48 hours afterwards.

So what do the school want? It seem's that they want us to send an ill child to school, so they can spread more illness around... What a good idea.

I think I'm going to have to reply to this letter... I am pissed off.

Jaska

802 posts

172 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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My attendance was less than 80% and I r supah not effectied by dis like... biggrin

Never got mentioned by the school though, I guess they have arbitrary targets just like everything else these days. Maybe double check to ensure these have been recorded correctly? (I. E. Not 'unexplained absence' or similar)

FredClogs

14,041 posts

191 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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You go girl, you don't have to stand for this patriachal oppression...

FWIW my 3 kids all got 100% last year and are on for it this term too... Just saying.


Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

274 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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FredClogs said:
You go girl, you don't have to stand for this patriachal oppression...

FWIW my 3 kids all got 100% last year and are on for it this term too... Just saying.
So what? Unless they're as thick as mince a couple of missed days would make the square root of eff all difference to their academic progression.

Vaud

59,734 posts

185 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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surveyor said:
Yesterday we had a general letter about attendance at my daughters school being low. Today we had a targeted one, telling us we were bad parents as attendance this term is at 91% and threatening 'action' if it does not improve.

Now I'm narked. She's had five days off. Two with a pretty bad cold. Three after she was sick, and then not allowed back in for 48 hours afterwards.

So what do the school want? It seem's that they want us to send an ill child to school, so they can spread more illness around... What a good idea.

I think I'm going to have to reply to this letter... I am pissed off.
You could talk to a governor or the office manager? It may be that is has been mis-recorded as unauthorised absence rather than sickness?

Vaud

59,734 posts

185 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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CoolHands said:
There's a well known and pretty obvious correlation between attendance and performance.
Sometimes yes. But there can also be a false correlation.

Zerotonine

1,171 posts

204 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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My local council have just lost a few cases when they tried to take people to court about school attendance. Might be of interest to you OP.

Linky here: http://indexwiltshire.co.uk/families-celebrate-lan...

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

274 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Vaud said:
CoolHands said:
There's a well known and pretty obvious correlation between attendance and performance.
Sometimes yes. But there can also be a false correlation.
Like the potential confounding factor being that the thick and disinterested tend to be the ones that skive off.

surveyor

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18,705 posts

214 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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brickwall said:
I'd just speak to the office manager, commending them for their tight attention to ensuring all children attend school. Then check that the sickness was recorded as such, rather than unauthorised absence, and ask them if there is anything they would have suggested you do differently.

Not sure I get the whole 'banned from school for 48 hours after being sick' - if the child is well enough the next day I'd send them in. It's hardly ebola.
Them's the rule. The school does not have an office manger. I think there are only 91 kids there in total...

Vaud

59,734 posts

185 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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brickwall said:
I'd just speak to the office manager, commending them for their tight attention to ensuring all children attend school. Then check that the sickness was recorded as such, rather than unauthorised absence, and ask them if there is anything they would have suggested you do differently.

Not sure I get the whole 'banned from school for 48 hours after being sick' - if the child is well enough the next day I'd send them in. It's hardly ebola.
Erm, NHS advice:

http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/Yourchildatschool/Pages...

Raised temperature. If your child has a raised temperature, they shouldn't attend school. They can return 24 hours after they start to feel better.

Vomiting and diarrhoea. Children with diarrhoea and/or vomiting should definitely be kept off school until at least 48 hours after their symptoms have gone.

Latter because it can still spread through contact even if child is feeling better.

ashleyman

7,284 posts

129 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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brickwall said:
I'd just speak to the office manager, commending them for their tight attention to ensuring all children attend school. Then check that the sickness was recorded as such, rather than unauthorised absence, and ask them if there is anything they would have suggested you do differently.

Not sure I get the whole 'banned from school for 48 hours after being sick' - if the child is well enough the next day I'd send them in. It's hardly ebola.
Wife's a teacher.

If she was physically sick right now then her work policy states she has to be absent for 48 hours from the last time she was physically sick. Same goes for the students.

standards

1,215 posts

248 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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I'd definitely check the figures, I've known of parents whose children have had their attendance recorded spectacularly inaccurately.

With the DFES or whatever they're called this week random targets are issued frequently. I wouldn't be surprised to see them seek over 100% attendance. Like one Education Secretary who wanted everyone above average...

Pothole

34,367 posts

312 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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brickwall said:
I'd just speak to the office manager, commending them for their tight attention to ensuring all children attend school. Then check that the sickness was recorded as such, rather than unauthorised absence, and ask them if there is anything they would have suggested you do differently.

No difference to the attendance figure whether it's "authorised" or not, is there?

OP: remember you're an adult. you can choose to ignore the letter as you know you're justified. Did it actually SAY you're bad parents or are you inferring a tone?

cjs racing.

2,508 posts

159 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Our daughter went from 100% attendance, to 84%, and we received a rather nastily worded letter.

However, she was coughing up phlegm as she suffered really bad asthma, and the school would send her home stating she had been sick, and to keep her off for 48 hours.

At the time she had a MAT worker, as she is special needs, one quick chat with her worker, who called the school, and the issue went away.

Not really relevant to your case, but there are people who can help. hope you get it sorted.


Countdown

49,519 posts

226 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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I think my youngest got a "stroppy" letter when she was in Year 2. No big deal - we hadn't realised how many school days she'd missed until we got the letter. IIRC we discussed things at parents evenings and her teacher was fine.

The letters are generated automatically by the data team FWIW.

cjs racing.

2,508 posts

159 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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brickwall said:
if the child is well enough the next day I'd send them in. It's hardly ebola.
And the school will send them straight home, been there, done that.

Countdown

49,519 posts

226 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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I think my youngest got a "stroppy" letter when she was in Year 2. No big deal - we hadn't realised how many school days she'd missed until we got the letter. IIRC we discussed things at parents evenings and her teacher was fine.

The letters are generated automatically by the data team FWIW.

MiniMan64

19,479 posts

220 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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We are set attendance targets by the government. Anyone currently below 96% gets automatically picked up.

What do you expect to happen?

anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Attendance letters? Is this a state school thing? COUNCIL

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

274 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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MiniMan64 said:
We are set attendance targets by the government. Anyone currently below 96% gets automatically picked up.

What do you expect to happen?
I'd expect you to just suck it up when concerned parents tell you to go screw yourselves with a rusty nail. Measure what is important, don't make important that which you can measure.