Second home stamp duty rules
Second home stamp duty rules
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fridaypassion

Original Poster:

11,458 posts

258 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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If you have a main residence can you transfer it into a Ltd company in order to avoid the stamp duty on another property purchased? We are looking to move at the moment but the stamp duty penalties are pretty punitive if we kept our current house on. I understand that you can pay the duty and reclaim it if you sell within 3 years (?) This may be an option as we are mainly considering this option to avoid the hassle of selling and been in a chain but it would be nice not to have to find a big chunk of cash to loan to the government!

anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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Generally sdlt is due to HMRC from the ltd when it acquires the house

How about selling and going into a rental whilst you sort out the next one?

fridaypassion

Original Poster:

11,458 posts

258 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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Wouldnt fancy moving twice. We said never again after the last time!

developer

284 posts

187 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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There is a gov't website that guides you through a flow process to confierm liability:

https://www.gov.uk/stamp-duty-land-tax/residential...

Jockman

18,414 posts

190 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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fridaypassion said:
If you have a main residence can you transfer it into a Ltd company in order to avoid the stamp duty on another property purchased? We are looking to move at the moment but the stamp duty penalties are pretty punitive if we kept our current house on. I understand that you can pay the duty and reclaim it if you sell within 3 years (?) This may be an option as we are mainly considering this option to avoid the hassle of selling and been in a chain but it would be nice not to have to find a big chunk of cash to loan to the government!
The limited company will pay sdlt. If any of the owners of the ltd company have another property then enhanced sdlt will be due.

I just did the latter cry

Eric Mc

125,790 posts

295 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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If you are living in a house owned by a limited company - of which you are a director, employee or are a connected person, you will be charged a taxable Benefit in Kind UNLESS you pay a commercial rent to the company.


Candellara

1,890 posts

212 months

Monday 12th December 2016
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Question. What if our "main residence" has only one person (me) on the deeds.

Can i purchase another house in the UK in my Wife's name only - thus not having to pay additional 3% SD?

Eric Mc

125,790 posts

295 months

Monday 12th December 2016
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They have to pay the extra 3%.

fridaypassion

Original Poster:

11,458 posts

258 months

Monday 12th December 2016
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No

Candellara

1,890 posts

212 months

Monday 12th December 2016
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22 yr old Daughter? :-)

anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 12th December 2016
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If only you weren't married!

KevinCamaroSS

13,854 posts

310 months

Monday 12th December 2016
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Candellara said:
22 yr old Daughter? :-)
Of course, provided she buys the house, e.g pays the deposit from her own funds and the mortgage is in her name and paid by her. Money laundering rules mean most mortgage providers are going ta ask where the funds come from

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

274 months

Monday 12th December 2016
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KevinCamaroSS said:
Of course, provided she buys the house, e.g pays the deposit from her own funds and the mortgage is in her name and paid by her. Money laundering rules mean most mortgage providers are going ta ask where the funds come from
A gift from her parents.

tight fart

3,604 posts

303 months

Monday 12th December 2016
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Then she'll get the tax when really buying one.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

274 months

Monday 12th December 2016
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tight fart said:
Then she'll get the tax when really buying one.
Yep. But there would be a cashflow advantage of pay later not now, and probably at a lower rate/amount. And they would have to circumnavigate gifts with reservation for IHT.

anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 12th December 2016
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So what would the situation be if not married?

If I own the prime residence that my girlfriend and I live in and we want to buy a second property for development can I gift her the money to buy it outright? Assuming I last 7 years are there any tax ramifications?

Jockman

18,414 posts

190 months

Monday 12th December 2016
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garyhun said:
So what would the situation be if not married?

If I own the prime residence that my girlfriend and I live in and we want to buy a second property for development can I gift her the money to buy it outright? Assuming I last 7 years are there any tax ramifications?
Doesn't matter if you're married. Enhanced sdlt is based on ownership.

Your example would appear to be tax efficient. Just pray she doesn't meet someone else smile

Jockman

18,414 posts

190 months

Monday 12th December 2016
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Alpinestars said:
tight fart said:
Then she'll get the tax when really buying one.
Yep. But there would be a cashflow advantage of pay later not now, and probably at a lower rate/amount. And they would have to circumnavigate gifts with reservation for IHT.
And if future budgets raise the enhanced sdlt to 5%..........

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

274 months

Monday 12th December 2016
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Jockman said:
And if future budgets raise the enhanced sdlt to 5%..........
Or lower them back down ...

I'd rather be paying less now.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

274 months

Monday 12th December 2016
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Jockman said:
Doesn't matter if you're married. Enhanced sdlt is based on ownership.

Your example would appear to be tax efficient. Just pray she doesn't meet someone else smile
Married couples treated as one. So extra SDLT for a second home bought by the other spouse or civil partner.