Requesting a new Manager
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Whats the best/right way to do this?
We get on really well but they are so out of their depth their lack of competence is stopping me doing what I need to do. It has been noticed by senior management. Their responsibilities have been changed a couple of times recently and they are still struggling a little.
Feels a little like its all the wrong way around. They know it, I know it.
Issue is I do actually like them and really don't want it to reflect on them but I am being held back quite a bit by their lack of proactivity.
Answers on a postcard...
We get on really well but they are so out of their depth their lack of competence is stopping me doing what I need to do. It has been noticed by senior management. Their responsibilities have been changed a couple of times recently and they are still struggling a little.
Feels a little like its all the wrong way around. They know it, I know it.
Issue is I do actually like them and really don't want it to reflect on them but I am being held back quite a bit by their lack of proactivity.
Answers on a postcard...
The best way to do this is look for another role in another team which will give you a transfer opportunity. Organisations don't just move employees around at their request because they want a new manager. Said manager will have a bjdget, headcount allocation, project/work/business scope. You can't expect to ask for a new manager and be doing exactly the same work as unless they are looking to restructure your 'job' and work will stay under the existing manager.
Thats not how I read it - current manager cant hack it by all accounts and everyone knows it, so the business needs to move them out.
Perhaps approach managers manager off the record, if you can, and suggest you take the role? Have a structured plan for taking over, maybe by assuming new responsibilities over a set period (3 months?) until you are the defacto manager?
Perhaps approach managers manager off the record, if you can, and suggest you take the role? Have a structured plan for taking over, maybe by assuming new responsibilities over a set period (3 months?) until you are the defacto manager?
If you think you are so good why not get an equal level position somewhere else instead of trying to get rid of your current manager?
You are being held back by their lack of pro activity? the only person holding you up is yourself by not being pro active and seeking a promotion further afield.
You are being held back by their lack of pro activity? the only person holding you up is yourself by not being pro active and seeking a promotion further afield.
mondeoman said:
Thats not how I read it - current manager cant hack it by all accounts and everyone knows it, so the business needs to move them out.
Perhaps approach managers manager off the record, if you can, and suggest you take the role? Have a structured plan for taking over, maybe by assuming new responsibilities over a set period (3 months?) until you are the defacto manager?
Back in the real world, manager's manager talks to manager, tells them what has happened and that he wants that 'jumped up little Perhaps approach managers manager off the record, if you can, and suggest you take the role? Have a structured plan for taking over, maybe by assuming new responsibilities over a set period (3 months?) until you are the defacto manager?
' dealing with and you find yourself 'managed out of the business'.Unless there is some serious 'whistleblowing' going on, or a genuine grievance involved, going above your manager to get their job isn't ever going to end well.
Trabi601 said:
mondeoman said:
Thats not how I read it - current manager cant hack it by all accounts and everyone knows it, so the business needs to move them out.
Perhaps approach managers manager off the record, if you can, and suggest you take the role? Have a structured plan for taking over, maybe by assuming new responsibilities over a set period (3 months?) until you are the defacto manager?
Back in the real world, manager's manager talks to manager, tells them what has happened and that he wants that 'jumped up little Perhaps approach managers manager off the record, if you can, and suggest you take the role? Have a structured plan for taking over, maybe by assuming new responsibilities over a set period (3 months?) until you are the defacto manager?
' dealing with and you find yourself 'managed out of the business'.Unless there is some serious 'whistleblowing' going on, or a genuine grievance involved, going above your manager to get their job isn't ever going to end well.
mondeoman said:
Trabi601 said:
mondeoman said:
Thats not how I read it - current manager cant hack it by all accounts and everyone knows it, so the business needs to move them out.
Perhaps approach managers manager off the record, if you can, and suggest you take the role? Have a structured plan for taking over, maybe by assuming new responsibilities over a set period (3 months?) until you are the defacto manager?
Back in the real world, manager's manager talks to manager, tells them what has happened and that he wants that 'jumped up little Perhaps approach managers manager off the record, if you can, and suggest you take the role? Have a structured plan for taking over, maybe by assuming new responsibilities over a set period (3 months?) until you are the defacto manager?
' dealing with and you find yourself 'managed out of the business'.Unless there is some serious 'whistleblowing' going on, or a genuine grievance involved, going above your manager to get their job isn't ever going to end well.
I do miss working in small businesses/teams where you just get on with it (and POETS days exist), working in a giant corporate makes everyone play bulls
t games. But you have to do it the right way if you want to get on.Monkeylegend said:
Ask your manager if you can swap jobs.
Funny how nearly everybody thinks their manager is useless and shouldn't be in the job.
Are you sure you are as good as you think you are?
Can't speak for the OP.Funny how nearly everybody thinks their manager is useless and shouldn't be in the job.
Are you sure you are as good as you think you are?
But my last manager (not my current) had a rudimentary knowledge of my job, but had never done it. So really had never been in the position to judge how it should be done imo. Also prone to lying
Manager before that. Only in the position because of personal reasons. Who you spend time with, not how good you are. Not because they had any potential for it. And so far out of their depth managerially it was frustrating I had to leave! TBF I wasn't the only one, during the time in charge 5 staff left. Out of 11!
Manager before that, good guy. Recently offered me a job tomorrow if I wanted it.
Before that. Good guy. Dodgy as hell and often Drunk But loyal to his staff.
Edited by Rich_W on Saturday 10th December 22:46
Edited by Rich_W on Saturday 10th December 23:59
Don't think I said I wanted or could do their job?
To be clear. I would rather report to a different Director. My current one is useless and that is known higher up hence their responsibilities diminishing and changing which means they are even less motivated than before. And that wasn't a lot to start with.
Anyway, mentioned indirectly to the person I would rather have as a manager and they implied that my current boss may not be around too much longer so issue should resolve itself.
To be clear. I would rather report to a different Director. My current one is useless and that is known higher up hence their responsibilities diminishing and changing which means they are even less motivated than before. And that wasn't a lot to start with.
Anyway, mentioned indirectly to the person I would rather have as a manager and they implied that my current boss may not be around too much longer so issue should resolve itself.
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