Qantas, London to Perth non-stop.
Qantas, London to Perth non-stop.
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Cold

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16,437 posts

114 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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Qantas have announced they're going to start using 787-9 Dreamliners to fly non-stop to Perth from March 2018 with a journey time of 17 hours.

BBC link

Thurbs

2,782 posts

246 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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Great news, I do that route loads and it is a long old haul via one of the Emirates.

djc206

13,429 posts

149 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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That's definitely not one to fly economy on is it!

RichB

55,434 posts

308 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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17 hours sat in a plane seat, sod that!

belleair302

6,996 posts

231 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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How much fuel, food and 'crap' will it be carrying. What about crew changes and the interior of the plane afterwards....nasty.

djc206

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149 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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belleair302 said:
How much fuel, food and 'crap' will it be carrying. What about crew changes and the interior of the plane afterwards....nasty.
Fuel, lots
Food, one additional meal per passenger over a 12hr flight I guess
Crew, lots

Qantas are already experienced in these ultra long haul flights they do a Sydney-Dallas that can't be much shorter. The middle eastern airlines all have 14+HR flights too so it's not that revolutionary. I believe Singapore used to have an 18hr flight direct to New York but it got cancelled.

In business/first it would be fine. Have a few drinks, watch a film have dinner and then get 8hrs kip. Wake up have a stretch, more food and a couple more films and you're there.

hairyben

8,516 posts

207 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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belleair302 said:
How much fuel, food and 'crap' will it be carrying. What about crew changes and the interior of the plane afterwards....nasty.
I think theyve got it all covered.

Flew sydney-LA once which was 15 hours in one hop. Was as crappy as long haul is. Think the latest long range jets could fly anywhere in the world in theory. Personally would rather get there without a silly stop adding 2+ hours

Interests us here as mrs hairy is canberra native so potential one stop journey there.

Cold

Original Poster:

16,437 posts

114 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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Seems a bit mean to refer to paying passengers as "crap". frown

AMArchie

270 posts

194 months

Monday 12th December 2016
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djc206 said:
I believe Singapore used to have an 18hr flight direct to New York but it got cancelled.
They did indeed. It ran between Newark, New Jersey and Singapore, and was a regular service between 2004 and 2013. I took the flight a few times and it was a marathon at about 18 hours. Distance flown depended on weather / wind patterns, as I recall flying over the North Pole from Newark to Singapore, and over the UK and Europe. When I took the flights it was an all business class flight. I think the distance covered varied between 15,500 and 16,500 Kms, a bit longer than the Qantas London / Perth route just announced.

dvs_dave

9,040 posts

249 months

Monday 12th December 2016
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AMArchie said:
djc206 said:
I believe Singapore used to have an 18hr flight direct to New York but it got cancelled.
They did indeed. It ran between Newark, New Jersey and Singapore, and was a regular service between 2004 and 2013. I took the flight a few times and it was a marathon at about 18 hours. Distance flown depended on weather / wind patterns, as I recall flying over the North Pole from Newark to Singapore, and over the UK and Europe. When I took the flights it was an all business class flight. I think the distance covered varied between 15,500 and 16,500 Kms, a bit longer than the Qantas London / Perth route just announced.
Singapore Airlines SQ21/22. Longest scheduled commercial flight ever, and an all business class A340-500. Another unique feature was the installation of onboard corpse lockers due to the remoteness of the flight route. spin

texaxile

3,664 posts

174 months

Monday 12th December 2016
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dvs_dave said:
Singapore Airlines SQ21/22. Longest scheduled commercial flight ever, and an all business class A340-500. Another unique feature was the installation of onboard corpse lockers due to the remoteness of the flight route. spin
One would hope the "corpse lockers" were suitably sealed and possibly refrigerated...

Simpo Two

91,519 posts

289 months

Monday 12th December 2016
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dvs_dave said:
Singapore Airlines SQ21/22. Longest scheduled commercial flight ever, and an all business class A340-500. Another unique feature was the installation of onboard corpse lockers due to the remoteness of the flight route. spin
Inference being that if the flight had been over less remote territory they'd have pushed them out...

telecat

8,528 posts

265 months

Monday 12th December 2016
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At Least Qantas aren't using the 3-4-3 seating in economy. That would be agonising. As it stands it might be bearable.

LotusOmega375D

9,084 posts

177 months

Monday 12th December 2016
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Apart from its residents, who actually wants to go to Perth though? It's about as close to the major East coast population centres as Ankara is to London. Unless Perth is your final destination in Australia, you may as well just break the journey somewhere nearer the middle.

hairyben

8,516 posts

207 months

Monday 12th December 2016
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LotusOmega375D said:
Apart from its residents, who actually wants to go to Perth though? It's about as close to the major East coast population centres as Ankara is to London. Unless Perth is your final destination in Australia, you may as well just break the journey somewhere nearer the middle.
For most people flying europe to anywhere not served directly (ie syd/mel) they can connect direct and it'll cut out a stop, as most flights pass over perth anyway

Ie london-perth-canberra, instead of london-halfway hub-sydney-canberra

Le TVR

3,097 posts

275 months

Monday 12th December 2016
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Go back a few years and TWA operated L1649 Starliners from Heathrow to San Francisco with a Flight time of around 23,5 hours! The 1649 was range limited by the oil capacity rather than fuel!

djc206

13,429 posts

149 months

Monday 12th December 2016
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LotusOmega375D said:
Apart from its residents, who actually wants to go to Perth though? It's about as close to the major East coast population centres as Ankara is to London. Unless Perth is your final destination in Australia, you may as well just break the journey somewhere nearer the middle.
I would I've been to Dubai a lot so stopping off there doesn't appeal so it would be nice to break up the journey in Perth. Spend a couple of days in the vineyards around there and then take a short flight over to the east coast. One long plus one short haul flight vs two long haul flights is a benefit. There's also a lot of mining and oil in that area so it'll be a good business route I should imagine.

interstellar

4,802 posts

170 months

Monday 12th December 2016
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I was surprised there were longer flights out there currently but Dallas-Sydney and Dubai-Auckland both beat this Perth route.

I think it will be popular going direct before hopping to the east coast where most fly into.

RichB

55,434 posts

308 months

Monday 12th December 2016
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Dubai - Auckland 16 hours
Dallas - Sydney 17 hours

interstellar

4,802 posts

170 months

Monday 12th December 2016
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Seems there are a few like this out there. Amazing now they can do these non stop.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-35710969