Woman missing for 17 years
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matchmaker

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8,970 posts

224 months

Tuesday 13th December 2016
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west...

BBC said:
Police investigating the disappearance of a woman from Inverclyde who was last seen in public 17 years ago say they are following up lines of inquiry.

Margaret Fleming was reported missing by her carers six weeks ago but the last independent sighting of the 36-year-old was in 1999.

Her house in Inverkip has been searched and the garden dug up.

Police went to Ms Fleming's house on 28th October about a social work issue. Her carers said she had left that day.

They later reported her missing.

Police have also confirmed that Margaret Fleming's carers assisted with her finances.
Wonder what has happened here? scratchchin

number 46

1,019 posts

272 months

Tuesday 13th December 2016
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She missing but the money isn't??

anonymous-user

78 months

Wednesday 14th December 2016
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What a coincidence that the police just happened to visit the day she was reported missing,

Vantagemech

5,733 posts

239 months

Wednesday 14th December 2016
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I was expecting it to be she showed up after 17 years, came home to this smile


cymtriks

4,561 posts

269 months

Wednesday 14th December 2016
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Vantagemech said:
I was expecting it to be she showed up after 17 years, came home to this smile

Funnily enough I think I'd come home to that if I left any woman alone for 17 years, they always claim it's the other way around, but the reality is different. I can think of a few women I've known whose kitchen's looked not unlike that!

All that jazz

7,632 posts

170 months

Thursday 15th December 2016
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Is it just me that is struggling to make sense of the story ?

blurb said:
Police investigating the disappearance of a woman from Inverclyde who was last seen in public in 1999.

Margaret Fleming was reported missing by her carers six weeks ago but the last independent sighting of the 36-year-old was 17 years ago.
If she hasn't been seen for 17 years ago then why has it taken her carers 16 years and 46 months before suddenly deciding that it might be best to mention it to someone? confused

Du1point8

22,603 posts

216 months

Thursday 15th December 2016
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All that jazz said:
Is it just me that is struggling to make sense of the story ?

blurb said:
Police investigating the disappearance of a woman from Inverclyde who was last seen in public in 1999.

Margaret Fleming was reported missing by her carers six weeks ago but the last independent sighting of the 36-year-old was 17 years ago.
If she hasn't been seen for 17 years ago then why has it taken her carers 16 years and 46 months before suddenly deciding that it might be best to mention it to someone? confused
She was last seen outside by the general public 17 years ago, aka shes a recluse.

For the past 17 years she has had carers, but they have not seen her for 6 weeks.

All that jazz

7,632 posts

170 months

Thursday 15th December 2016
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OK so

blurb said:
Police have also confirmed that Margaret Fleming's carers assisted with her finances.

[...]

checks on education, employment, health and welfare records had shown no trace of her. scratchchin

[...]

Detectives said the carers had told them they believe Ms Fleming had "a private side to her life" and friends they were not aware of. scratchchinscratchchin
But wait...

blurb said:
Police officers went to Ms Fleming's house on 28th October about a social work issue.
scratchchin Umm how? There's no official trace of her and basically doesn't exist so how and why are the police suddenly visiting this person about a "social work issue", whatever one of those is?

Fishy much? And none of the immediate neighbours have seen her AT ALL?

fttm

4,392 posts

159 months

Thursday 15th December 2016
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All that jazz said:
OK so

blurb said:
Police have also confirmed that Margaret Fleming's carers assisted with her finances.

[...]

checks on education, employment, health and welfare records had shown no trace of her. scratchchin

[...]

Detectives said the carers had told them they believe Ms Fleming had "a private side to her life" and friends they were not aware of. scratchchinscratchchin
But wait...

blurb said:
Police officers went to Ms Fleming's house on 28th October about a social work issue.
scratchchin Umm how? There's no official trace of her and basically doesn't exist so how and why are the police suddenly visiting this person about a "social work issue", whatever one of those is?

Fishy much? And none of the immediate neighbours have seen her AT ALL?
Don't go getting ideas

Chicken Chaser

8,907 posts

248 months

Thursday 15th December 2016
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Sounds like she died years ago, carers have disposed of the body and kept drawing her finances until police need to speak to her, likely about finances then said carers make up story about going missing...

r11co

6,244 posts

254 months

Thursday 15th December 2016
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Chicken Chaser said:
Sounds like she died years ago, carers have disposed of the body and kept drawing her finances until police need to speak to her, likely about finances then said carers make up story about going missing...
Kinda looks that way, dunnit!

Gecko1978

12,302 posts

181 months

Thursday 15th December 2016
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r11co said:
Chicken Chaser said:
Sounds like she died years ago, carers have disposed of the body and kept drawing her finances until police need to speak to her, likely about finances then said carers make up story about going missing...
Kinda looks that way, dunnit!
Could be a bit worse....got sick or was abused by them and got to point of needing medical help an they prevented her getting it, with a view to still keeping her money. So end of day we could be looking at murder not just financial crime.

hidetheelephants

34,250 posts

217 months

Thursday 15th December 2016
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I don't believe it's possible to draw incapacity benefit for any length of time without interacting with the DWP or the NHS fairly regularly, never mind 17 years; this smells like yesterday's fish.

All that jazz

7,632 posts

170 months

Thursday 15th December 2016
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hidetheelephants said:
I don't believe it's possible to draw incapacity benefit for any length of time without interacting with the DWP or the NHS fairly regularly, never mind 17 years; this smells like yesterday's fish.
blurb said:
checks on education, employment, health and welfare records had shown no trace of her.
What incapacity benefit?

hidetheelephants

34,250 posts

217 months

Thursday 15th December 2016
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All that jazz said:
hidetheelephants said:
I don't believe it's possible to draw incapacity benefit for any length of time without interacting with the DWP or the NHS fairly regularly, never mind 17 years; this smells like yesterday's fish.
blurb said:
checks on education, employment, health and welfare records had shown no trace of her.
What incapacity benefit?
Person with learning difficulties living with carers; I suppose the carers might have done that out of the goodness of their hearts, but I'm presuming money is changing hands at some level so it has to come from somewhere.

Camoradi

4,844 posts

280 months

Thursday 15th December 2016
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Property owned by carers, so housing benefit? Best behaved tenant a landlord could wish for....

matchmaker

Original Poster:

8,970 posts

224 months

Sunday 8th October 2017
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I've just seen her carers interviewed on BBC Scotland. According to them, she moved to Poland and is now a gangmaster recruiting agricultural workers.

That's some story!

Dogwatch

6,369 posts

246 months

Sunday 8th October 2017
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matchmaker said:
I've just seen her carers interviewed on BBC Scotland. According to them, she moved to Poland and is now a gangmaster recruiting agricultural workers.

That's some story!
Obvious job for a recluse!

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

132 months

Sunday 8th October 2017
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If she was getting any DWP money, there should be evidence of its payment and receipt

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

132 months

Sunday 8th October 2017
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hidetheelephants said:
I don't believe it's possible to draw incapacity benefit for any length of time without interacting with the DWP or the NHS fairly regularly, never mind 17 years; this smells like yesterday's fish.
Some years ago you would have a payment book with Counterfoils in it that you cashed every week of fortnight at the
Post Office usually