U.N. - More "K"rap!!
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jimbeaux

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33,791 posts

260 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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Can we just dissolve this useless band of fools; consider the valuable Manhattan real estate these oxygen thieves occupy!



www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,145031,00.html

sadako

7,080 posts

267 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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Hate to tell you this but Fox news is pretty much a pro-bush propoganda station. You might want to take anything they report with a pinch of salt

jimbeaux

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33,791 posts

260 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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This argument point is widespread, not just Fox. Besides, The NeW York Times, BBC, & CNN are Left Wing Propaganda machines, but everyone seemed happy and content with quoting them! Hint: Read & stick to the subject and quit being so obviously anti-Bush, that is so stale! People can float a subject that has Bush's name somewhere in the verbage then remove his name from the picture and the same group of people being polled will give two different opinions. This is a dead giveaway!

jimbeaux

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260 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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To continue: Open your eyes and see the grand picture. When a world-wide organization tries to actually state that there is really no "natural disasters" everything is man's fault, it is obvious that environmentalists with EXTREME views are using current or popular debates to force their philosophies on the world. They don't really give a damn about the stated goal, it is just a vehicle to push their sub-schemes like, taking away your sports car, taking away your too-large property, taking away fishing rights, etc. Wake up! To even entertain what they are proposing is insane.

sadako

7,080 posts

267 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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I'm just saying the source is not known for accuracy. Worlds going to hell in a handbasket anyway, not saying bush is good or evil

peterpeter

6,438 posts

286 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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that article is utter, utter shit.

As is that dogs' egg of a news station.

Thank god we dont get that bollox forcefed to us over here.

jimbeaux

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33,791 posts

260 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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Forced? No, we have many choices...what, by the way, is "forced" on you?

>> Edited by jimbeaux on Friday 18th March 22:18

GMan 2112

182 posts

264 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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On Wednesday you were happy that UN pressure persuaded Syria to withdraw from Lebanon.

Make your mind up.

968

12,439 posts

277 months

Saturday 19th March 2005
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jimbeaux said:
Forced? No, we have many choices...what, by the way, is "forced" on you?

>> Edited by jimbeaux on Friday 18th March 22:18



Fortunately, we live in a society where we have free press, unlike yours. This article is sensationalist nonsense. It couldn't be more biased even from the opening paragraph.

rico

7,917 posts

284 months

Saturday 19th March 2005
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The UN is incredibly corrupt, costs us all a shed load of cash, but it does do some good from time to time.

Fox News on the other hand is as useless as they come. Utter utter utter crap!

rico

7,917 posts

284 months

Saturday 19th March 2005
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Actually... i don't know of any news stations that are that good these days. Most have a hidden agenda.

Anyone who bases arguments these days solely on what they hear on the news is a fool...

jimbeaux

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33,791 posts

260 months

Saturday 19th March 2005
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GMan 2112 said:

On Wednesday you were happy that UN pressure persuaded Syria to withdraw from Lebanon.

Make your mind up.


That was sarcasm dimwit....HELLO!

Trooper2

6,676 posts

260 months

Saturday 19th March 2005
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Jimbeaux, any way you can make your point without name calling. As far as I'm concern you now sound like (or worse) than the chap last week that said all Americans are stupid. If you have to take a deep breath and count to ten before you reply, do it. I think we are here for the love of cars not name calling, aren't we?

If people are misinterpreting your posts, try using the smilies to put the proper tone /inflection on them, It seems to work. your fellow countrymen on here get to read enough anti-American stuff, let's not make it worse.



DocJock

8,722 posts

269 months

Saturday 19th March 2005
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Maybe people are being a bit unfair to Jimbeaux.

OK, his 'source' is not known for it's impartiality, but then show me a medium which isn't....

His point is a valid one though.
Whilst the principle behind the UN is admirable, it has descended into an organisation strangled by red tape and procedural wranglings.
As ever in these situations, the worst 'offenders' are those who bring little or nothing to the table, but are determined to make their voices heard.

GMan 2112

182 posts

264 months

Saturday 19th March 2005
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jimbeaux said:



GMan 2112 said:

On Wednesday you were happy that UN pressure persuaded Syria to withdraw from Lebanon.

Make your mind up.





That was sarcasm dimwit....HELLO!




The original post does not show a smiley, the moved post does.My mistake for not getting all the facts.

As Im on the subject of getting the facts, perhaps you should investigate rather than just reading Fox and going off on one.

Steve Milloys article begins by commenting on the fact that the UN is having a conference entitled "World Conference on Disaster Reduction" compared to a 1994 conference entitled "World Conference on Natural Disaster Reduction”.

Steve takes this to mean that the UN now sees all disasters as man made, and launches into his standard anti global warrming speech.

You swallowed this hook line and sinker.



jimbeaux said:
To continue: Open your eyes and see the grand picture. When a world-wide organization tries to actually state that there is really no "natural disasters" everything is man's fault, it is obvious that environmentalists with EXTREME views are using current or popular debates to force their philosophies on the world.




If you read what the UN conference discussed you see that that the Fox article is pure spin.

The conference discuused everything from Aids to Volcanoes.They were trying to deal with the practialities of what is happening in the world today.
Not laying the blame for everything on global warming.

<a href="http://www.unisdr.org/wcdr/">www.unisdr.org/wcdr/</a>

You may disagree with what the UN does, but i would not advise basing it on Steve Milloy articles, he has his own agenda and is not a reliable journalist.





>> Edited by GMan 2112 on Saturday 19th March 09:04

>> Edited by GMan 2112 on Saturday 19th March 09:41

bruciebabie

895 posts

265 months

Saturday 19th March 2005
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sadako said:
Hate to tell you this but Fox news is pretty much a pro-bush propoganda station. You might want to take anything they report with a pinch of salt


And we have the Daily Mail, brainwashing middle England with a load of lies masquerading as news.

bga

8,134 posts

280 months

Saturday 19th March 2005
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GMan 2112 said:

lots of stuff I was thinking


Disasters come in all shapes & forms, some natural, some manmade. Why get arsey because an organisation wants to increase it's scope to cover those which we have more control over than a tsunami caused by an earthquake.
The article is a piece of one sided paranoid nonsense.

sadako

7,080 posts

267 months

Saturday 19th March 2005
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bruciebabie said:

sadako said:
Hate to tell you this but Fox news is pretty much a pro-bush propoganda station. You might want to take anything they report with a pinch of salt



And we have the Daily Mail, brainwashing middle England with a load of lies masquerading as news.


Yep, pretty much. The mail seems to be as bad as fox but fox has a much much wider audience of idiots to appeal to, making them much more dangerous

bruciebabie

895 posts

265 months

Saturday 19th March 2005
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peterpeter said:
that article is utter, utter shit.
As is that dogs' egg of a news station.
Thank god we dont get that bollox forcefed to us over here.


You do, and worse. Murdoch forcing his agenda on us via a huge range of media. The Daily Mail scaring the living daylight out of middle England with their distortions. The Guardian living in some historic unreconstructed socialist heaven. We have a handful of meglomaniacs forcing their view of the world on the English public and they are very, very successful at it. I have had personal dealing with a few national news stories and most British media do not let the facts get in the way of a good story.
Go to Google news and at the bottom you can click to see the news as reported in different countries, often you won't recognise the stories. The Economist is a reasonably intelligent weekly newspaper and once a fortnight Private Eye gives it's take on what is really going on. These are about all I read now.

Jaglover

46,735 posts

264 months

Saturday 19th March 2005
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bruciebabie said:

[quote=peterpeter]that article is utter, utter shit.
The Economist is a reasonably intelligent weekly newspaper and once a fortnight Private Eye gives it's take on what is really going on. These are about all I read now.


I also read the Economist once a week-it offers a different point of view and helps to correct the Brito-centric view of the rest of our media.

However it still has it's own angle-and after a reading a pean of praise to speed cameras a couple of months ago (which I wrote a letter of complaint about) I would not take everything it says as the gospel truth.