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Jon39

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14,996 posts

174 months

Saturday 17th December 2016
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Here in the UK, a motor industry association publishes monthly numbers, of new cars first registered for use on roads.
The data is split by manufacturer, so therefore we can follow the UK progress of Aston Martin.

Do you have something similar in the USA?

I do not know, but if your vehicle registrations are handled by individual States, then those figures would not tell us much, unless there is an overall Country total.

Our UK figures do not include the very small individual manufacturers, but the AM production has been large enough in recent years, to be included.






V8 Vantage GT

1,657 posts

137 months

Sunday 18th December 2016
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Registration is different for each state. This website keeps track of US and Canada, but unfortunately not Aston Martin.

http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/p/sales-stats.html

Jon39

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174 months

Sunday 18th December 2016
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Thank you Andy, I would never have found that myself.

A very interesting source of reference.
A pity that Aston Martin is not included.
I see that Alfa Romeo are in, even though fewer than 500 sales.

I think the Porsche Macan might be the top European SUV, at 17,000 year to date, 40% up on 2015.
The Bentley Bentayga shows 643 sold

The list shows the top three models are all giant pickups, with combined sales of 1,700,000 to the end of November 2016. Certainly very different from the UK market.

If the Aston Martin SUV, does not reach the stated target of 7,000 units, then perhaps an Aston Martin pickup will have to be the next project.

Does 'Charlotte' like pickups?





V8 Vantage GT

1,657 posts

137 months

Sunday 18th December 2016
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Yes we love our trucks biggrin! As a whole Land Rover and LR Sport for a luxury SUV is what most Americans like. It can't be beat for luxury, price and looks. I still think a $250,000+ Aston Martin SUV is going to be a tough sell for anyone but the super rich, once you past that $100,000+/- threshold, it's not an easy sell. It might be a good buy used a few years old when it's value drops by 50%. That's just my opinion.

axarunner

121 posts

165 months

Monday 19th December 2016
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The Automotive News tracks this info on a monthly basis.
http://www.autonews.com/assets/PDF/CA108132121.PDF

Jon39

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Monday 19th December 2016
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axarunner said:
The Automotive News tracks this info on a monthly basis.
http://www.autonews.com/assets/PDF/CA108132121.PDF

Thank you Daniel. Excellent.

Your link takes us directly to the November and Year To Date figures. I tried to see Full Year 2015 figures, but access seems to be by subscription only.

We were able to freely access the page you linked, but was that only because you provided the exact file name for the pdf?








Edited by Jon39 on Tuesday 20th December 08:11

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

261 months

Tuesday 20th December 2016
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Jon39 said:

Thank you Daniel. Excellent.

Your link takes us directly to the November and Year To Date figures. I tried to see Full Year 2015 figures, but access seems to be by subscription only.

We were able to freely access the page you linked, but was that only because you provided the exact file name for the pdf?
Try here:

http://www.autonews.com/section/datalist18


edit: looks like it's paywalled

Ken Figenus

6,011 posts

148 months

Tuesday 20th December 2016
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Jon39 said:
The Bentley Bentayga shows 643 sold

The list shows the top three models are all giant pickups, with combined sales of 1,700,000 to the end of November 2016. Certainly very different from the UK market.

If the Aston Martin SUV, does not reach the stated target of 7,000 units, then perhaps an Aston Martin pickup will have to be the next project.

Does 'Charlotte' like pickups?
No but Daisy Duke does!

This DBX project now terrifies me - 643 'hot-new-gopping' BentTigers sold in a country of 320 million? And still no bloody Aston (road) sports car with a PDK type dual clutch box...


Edited by Ken Figenus on Tuesday 20th December 10:12

Jon39

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Tuesday 20th December 2016
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Ken Figenus said:


This DBX project now terrifies me - 643 'hot-new-gopping' BentTigers sold in a country of 320 million? And still no bloody Aston (road) sports car with a PDK type dual clutch box...
Perhaps the 643 is part year, if that model is quite recent.

I do not have the background knowledge to know, but I wonder if the DBX might be quite a high financial risk for the Company.

Of course I do wish them every success.





DB9VolanteDriver

2,661 posts

207 months

Tuesday 20th December 2016
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Jon39 said:
Ken Figenus said:


This DBX project now terrifies me - 643 'hot-new-gopping' BentTigers sold in a country of 320 million? And still no bloody Aston (road) sports car with a PDK type dual clutch box...
Perhaps the 643 is part year, if that model is quite recent.

I do not have the background knowledge to know, but I wonder if the DBX might be quite a high financial risk for the Company.

Of course I do wish them every success.

4 months...

Ken Figenus

6,011 posts

148 months

Tuesday 20th December 2016
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And 'ours' is far prettier biggrin


jonby

5,367 posts

188 months

Tuesday 20th December 2016
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Jon39 said:
Ken Figenus said:


This DBX project now terrifies me - 643 'hot-new-gopping' BentTigers sold in a country of 320 million? And still no bloody Aston (road) sports car with a PDK type dual clutch box...
Perhaps the 643 is part year, if that model is quite recent.

I do not have the background knowledge to know, but I wonder if the DBX might be quite a high financial risk for the Company.

Of course I do wish them every success.


Bentayga production capacity was initially 3,000 globall in the first 12 months......they are trying to up that to 5,000. More than 1 yr waiting list apparently. On that basis, 643 for a part year in the US is about as high as you could expect and in fact arguably higher

DBX is not going to be pitched quite at quite as high a price as Bentayga from what i understand

There is no question that as per usual, Aston are a little late to the party, but the market for these types of vehicles is showing no signs of slowing down. At risk of stating the obvious, the key is going to be in the execution.

axarunner

121 posts

165 months

Tuesday 20th December 2016
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Jon39 said:
axarunner said:
The Automotive News tracks this info on a monthly basis.
http://www.autonews.com/assets/PDF/CA108132121.PDF

Thank you Daniel. Excellent.

Your link takes us directly to the November and Year To Date figures. I tried to see Full Year 2015 figures, but access seems to be by subscription only.

We were able to freely access the page you linked, but was that only because you provided the exact file name for the pdf?


December 2015 Month & YTD

http://www.autonews.com/assets/PDF/CA10323315.PDF



Edited by Jon39 on Tuesday 20th December 08:11

Jon39

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14,996 posts

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Tuesday 20th December 2016
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Thank you very much Daniel.

Hopefully you will not mind if I ask you in the future, for the 2016 year end PDF link.

It might be interesting for us to be able to follow, just the annual USA sales performance of AML.







Edited by Jon39 on Tuesday 20th December 20:10