A Tad Optimistic ?

A Tad Optimistic ?

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RamboLambo

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4,843 posts

185 months

Wednesday 28th December 2016
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Surely they are havin a giraffe with the pricing of this "Limited Edition"

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/m...

I don't even like the spec TBH and maybe it appeals to the US market more. I like the MSO front wheel arch vents and rear diffuser but The wheels, exhaust tips and interior air vent housings all look tacky after market.
At least the Le Mans edition looked good and I certainly wouldn't pay £100k more again over the Le Mans and twice the price of a regular 650S spider for this car.

Has the world gone crazy or is it just me ?!

Edited by RamboLambo on Wednesday 28th December 16:55

anonymous-user

69 months

Wednesday 28th December 2016
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Yup, just a seasonal joke. They do it every year - you can ignore it.

RamboLambo

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4,843 posts

185 months

Wednesday 28th December 2016
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thecook101 said:
Yup, just a seasonal joke. They do it every year - you can ignore it.
Its hard to tell these days as certain dealers have been doing it all year.

Like I say it only takes 1 idiot to come along and offer £10k less and its kerrrrrrching

anonymous-user

69 months

Thursday 29th December 2016
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;-) Just pulling your leg RL. I'm sure it's for real, I mean it's a 650 right? Merry Christmas.

Sprint Champ

52 posts

167 months

Thursday 29th December 2016
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Probably just waiting for someone with a big Christmas Bonus to come and snap up this bargain smile

RamboLambo

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4,843 posts

185 months

Thursday 29th December 2016
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thecook101 said:
;-) Just pulling your leg RL. I'm sure it's for real, I mean it's a 650 right? Merry Christmas.
rofl

Yeah, Maybe the title should of been a tad pessimistic and bargain to be had because by the end of 2017 all 650S will be worth more than that getmecoat

andymc

7,508 posts

222 months

Thursday 29th December 2016
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HPI checked and a VOSA report, what's not to like?

Yipper

5,964 posts

105 months

Thursday 29th December 2016
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The seller is based in Cheshire. Suspect they are just fishing for one of the local footballers with cash burning a hole in their pocket.

RamboLambo

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185 months

Thursday 29th December 2016
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Yipper said:
The seller is based in Cheshire. Suspect they are just fishing for one of the local footballers with cash burning a hole in their pocket.
Well they better snap it up quickly as McLaren prices are going up in 2017 getmecoat

Turbo cab

1,601 posts

247 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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RamboLambo said:
Well they better snap it up quickly as McLaren prices are going up in 2017 getmecoat
Trade bids are not... Without meaning to give the game away I know of a car up for around the £175ish mark that was bought in for £155k and this was the highest bid he had!!

RamboLambo

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185 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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Turbo cab said:
Trade bids are not... Without meaning to give the game away I know of a car up for around the £175ish mark that was bought in for £155k and this was the highest bid he had!!
Dealers are stealers. Of course they always will find a desperate seller looking to realise some cash. P/x deals are stronger and I said prices will rise in 2017

boxerTen

504 posts

219 months

Monday 2nd January 2017
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RamboLambo said:
Turbo cab said:
Trade bids are not... Without meaning to give the game away I know of a car up for around the £175ish mark that was bought in for £155k and this was the highest bid he had!!
Dealers are stealers. Of course they always will find a desperate seller looking to realise some cash. P/x deals are stronger and I said prices will rise in 2017
Is a 10-15% markup on trade price unreasonable?

Wilmslowboy

4,552 posts

221 months

Monday 2nd January 2017
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Turbo cab said:
Trade bids are not... Without meaning to give the game away I know of a car up for around the £175ish mark that was bought in for £155k and this was the highest bid he had!!
That's only 11% margin on the selling price.......( assuming they don't have add warranty or service, which could take a big chunk out of that).

Saying that not sure why in this case seller didn't sell it private for £159,999 - would still made it one of the cheapest


Ferruccio

1,855 posts

134 months

Monday 2nd January 2017
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[quote=RamboLambo]
Dealers are stealers. Of course they always will find a desperate seller looking to realise some cash./quote]

Ugh?? They provide a service. If you don't want to use their service, don't.

RamboLambo

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Monday 2nd January 2017
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Ferruccio]amboLambo said:
Dealers are stealers. Of course they always will find a desperate seller looking to realise some cash./quote]

Ugh?? They provide a service. If you don't want to use their service, don't.
I agree. Personally I wouldn't of accepted £20k behind retail but likewise don't expect dealers to do it for nothing.
It would of been far better to go SOR route or sell privately if you wanted a better return but I guess the seller wanted to liquidate his assets quickly and the dealer has taken full advantage of it to build in a good margin for resale.
Also at this time of year they would of built in extra stock holding time to the bid as realistically they wouldn't expect the market to pick up until Spring so the seller would of probably got the same money if not more for it in March

TP321

1,520 posts

213 months

Monday 2nd January 2017
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Not another McLaren "used price" thread.......nono

RamboLambo

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185 months

Monday 2nd January 2017
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Hot topic as it seems everyone is buying one these days. Don't miss the boat again

Turbo cab

1,601 posts

247 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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RamboLambo said:
Ferruccio]amboLambo said:
Dealers are stealers. Of course they always will find a desperate seller looking to realise some cash./quote]

Ugh?? They provide a service. If you don't want to use their service, don't.
I agree. Personally I wouldn't of accepted £20k behind retail but likewise don't expect dealers to do it for nothing.
It would of been far better to go SOR route or sell privately if you wanted a better return but I guess the seller wanted to liquidate his assets quickly and the dealer has taken full advantage of it to build in a good margin for resale.
Also at this time of year they would of built in extra stock holding time to the bid as realistically they wouldn't expect the market to pick up until Spring so the seller would of probably got the same money if not more for it in March
This was the highest trade bid he had,

He has a multiple car collection and was upgrading this to a 675LT so could have traded it in with the dealership when he collected his new car.

if they wanted it that is which they did not and was the same story with most mcclaren outfits.

RamboLambo

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185 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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Turbo cab said:
This was the highest trade bid he had,

He has a multiple car collection and was upgrading this to a 675LT so could have traded it in with the dealership when he collected his new car.

if they wanted it that is which they did not and was the same story with most mcclaren outfits.
Not that surprising giving its a spider in the middle of winter with dealers already stocked up after production run out. Dealer would have to sell the car low ( hence current prices ) to move it on quickly or be prepared to stock it for best part of 6 months. TBH if he could afford to fund it, which it sounds its likely, he could of been better sitting on it himself until trading it in the spring but then I guess £10 or £15k more might not be worth his hassle.

A Lamborghini or Ferrari price would be no different at this time of year.

I stole a Lamborghini Performante at Retail prices back in November 2013 as dealer wanted out quick and its worth more today than what I paid for it so I hate to think what trade bid the 1st owner got on it. It would of been circa £90k off list after 10 months

Turbo cab

1,601 posts

247 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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RamboLambo said:
Not that surprising giving its a spider in the middle of winter with dealers already stocked up after production run out. Dealer would have to sell the car low ( hence current prices ) to move it on quickly or be prepared to stock it for best part of 6 months. TBH if he could afford to fund it, which it sounds its likely, he could of been better sitting on it himself until trading it in the spring but then I guess £10 or £15k more might not be worth his hassle.

A Lamborghini or Ferrari price would be no different at this time of year.

I stole a Lamborghini Performante at Retail prices back in November 2013 as dealer wanted out quick and its worth more today than what I paid for it so I hate to think what trade bid the 1st owner got on it. It would of been circa £90k off list after 10 months
Everythings worth more today than it was in late 13.

And with reference to Lamborghini's and Ferrari's trade bid wise at this level will have around £15k in it be it spring summer or winter and thats talking from experience.

SOR is still around 7-10 margin wise.

The Mclaren fares slightly worse than this and im only guessing thats down to depreciation on the previous model.

I genuinely have no axe to grind here as i'm talking as a future owner but I think your very optimistic with your predictions.

I say by summer these will be around the £165 mark.