Bus gate - cash cow?

[saaby93]

There may be one of these near you

The council has spit a road in two by putting in what they call a bus gate.

As you can see there is no obvious prohibition - no ' no entry' signs no ' no motor vehicles' low flying motor bikes signs- just a sign showing this is the way for buses and they'll be on camera.

Even if you think it could be somewhere you shouldnt go in your car, there's no obvious ' do a U turn now' or a marked out place to do a U turn.

Many motorists go through maybe following a bus or taxi and earn a ticket, it wins more tickets than all the other cameras.

https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/news/local/cou...

Do you think when they install one of these they should put in a U turn place or mini roundabout so it's obvious you should turn around and that only buses should go through?
or just take it out - is it really necessary?

[0a]

It does say "buses only" in big letters on the road!

[DonkeyApple]

To be honest, I would read that as very clearly cyclists and buses only and cameras in operation to nail anyone else?

[TwyRob]

Reading from the top it seems to say, "Cycles & Buses only" so fairly clear. However, I agree that a turning space should be provided. I got a fine for going through one once by mistake to get to a disabled spot just beyond it. Got it cancelled mind you.

[poing]

The road looks wide enough to turn around in most cars from the one in the picture. I'm guessing there is similar signs at the start of that road before you get to the gate area?

[CoolHands]

are taxis allowed through that?

[zb]

I'm with OP.

Signs with red circles are mostly prohibitive.
Signs with blue circles but no red border mostly give positive instruction.
Warning signs Mostly triangular
Direction signs Mostly rectangular

[55palfers]

Any idea why have the council chosen to use scarce council taxpayers resource for this project please?

[bigandclever]

Presumably the parked cars in the pic will have been given tickets?

[saaby93]

0a said:

It does say "buses only" in big letters on the road!

I know that
Trouble is that usually prohibitions state what isnt allowed so youd get no entry 'except buses'
and yes I know its an approved and acceptable sign but its pretty obvious from the numbers
that many people don't realise that 'buses only' is code for 'cars do a U turn'
Since it has a bus on it maybe they think its an instruction for bus drivers to go that way only

If had a car on it in a red circle or crossed out they'd know it meant no cars

[carl_w]

I see what the OP is on about. In general blue signs tell you to do something whereas white ones with a red border tell you not to do something.

What would be wrong with a "No Entry" sign with a bit below it that said "except buses"? Like this one near me:

[carl_w]

bigandclever said:

Presumably the parked cars in the pic will have been given tickets?

No, I think what the OP is saying is that cars can drive either side of the gate just not through the gate (hence BUSES ONLY being painted in each direction).

[vonhosen]

carl_w said:

I see what the OP is on about. In general blue signs tell you to do something whereas white ones with a red border tell you not to do something.

What would be wrong with a "No Entry" sign with a bit below it that said "except buses"? Like this one near me:

The other allows cyclists, that one doesn't.

[saaby93]

vonhosen said:

The other allows cyclists, that one doesn't.

Good point - maybe the opening road markings should have 'buses' and 'a cycle logo' 'only'
However that's a side issue around whether to many people the sign looks like it's a positive instruction for buses only and everyone else can do what they like

[750turbo]

bigandclever said:

Presumably the parked cars in the pic will have been given tickets?

Is there possibly an Exit Road on the right hand side of the Pic? Hard to tell. They may be parked legally, or I am talking nonsense

[saaby93]

750turbo said:

bigandclever said:

Presumably the parked cars in the pic will have been given tickets?

Is there possibly an Exit Road on the right hand side of the Pic? Hard to tell. They may be parked legally, or I am talking nonsense

You can drive up to either side of the bus gate, turn around and park. theres nothing actually stopping you go through in a car but if you do you get a ticket

[vonhosen]

bigandclever said:

Presumably the parked cars in the pic will have been given tickets?

Why?
Unless there is evidence they went through the feature. Otherwise they could have entered the road from the other end, performed a U turn & then parked up.

[carl_w]

vonhosen said:

The other allows cyclists, that one doesn't.

This one would seem to suffice then?

[bigandclever]

vonhosen said:

bigandclever said:

Presumably the parked cars in the pic will have been given tickets?

Why?
Unless there is evidence they went through the feature. Otherwise they could have entered the road from the other end, performed a U turn & then parked up.

I was confused by this in the article...

"The measure was introduced to stop motorists using Bedford Road as a through road after the Diamond Bridge opened.
It has led to the road being permanently closed to all other traffic between Meston Walk and Hermitage Avenue."

And then I remembered I have no idea of where these roads are

[vonhosen]

carl_w said:

vonhosen said:

The other allows cyclists, that one doesn't.

This one would seem to suffice then?

No, that would prevent buses.