Classic car, Reg No & log book - xmas holiday brain-teaser!
Discussion
How can I solve this one?
40 yrs ago my Dad sold his knackered old car, with a nice Reg No. The plates got transferred to a newer car. Our car got its orignal 1968 plates back and was just scrapped off.
40 yrs on, and I'd like the Reg No back, but the situation is that the car was sold on twice...hoping to rebuild it....the last owner died and he had no family.
DVLA website has the number still with the car...last taxed 1978.
Unanswered questions....does the car still exist? Does the paper log book still exist?
I've had many theories about how to go about it....but I'd like to hear what others think.
40 yrs ago my Dad sold his knackered old car, with a nice Reg No. The plates got transferred to a newer car. Our car got its orignal 1968 plates back and was just scrapped off.
40 yrs on, and I'd like the Reg No back, but the situation is that the car was sold on twice...hoping to rebuild it....the last owner died and he had no family.
DVLA website has the number still with the car...last taxed 1978.
Unanswered questions....does the car still exist? Does the paper log book still exist?
I've had many theories about how to go about it....but I'd like to hear what others think.
My guess is the car is no more and same for the paper log book.
One of the many ideas...transfer ownership of the vehicle (i.e. sell it) in the normal way. The owner might be long gone but might have had an executor, so the vehicle will be part of his estate.
Not sure what happens if he died intestate?
The there is the small matter of DVLA wondering if a 1972 car still exists, and has it been SORNed etc.
One of the many ideas...transfer ownership of the vehicle (i.e. sell it) in the normal way. The owner might be long gone but might have had an executor, so the vehicle will be part of his estate.
Not sure what happens if he died intestate?
The there is the small matter of DVLA wondering if a 1972 car still exists, and has it been SORNed etc.
I don't condone this and don't suggest you do it either, but I know someone who had scrapped a car with a decent reg years before (before sorn) and then decided he'd like the reg for his current modern car. He reapplied for the v5 as he'd binned the original, then got a set of plates made up. He borrowed a very similar car to the original, temporarily swapped the number plates and got the 'ringer' MOT ed. He then applied to DVLA to put the number on retention, after this went through, he declared the original car scrapped and he was free to use the number plate. I don't know all the details as I refused to get involved at the time, but know he is now the proud owner of the number.
TooMany2cvs said:
And Mr MOT didn't notice that the VIN was different? He certainly would now.
Not necessarily, they often just look at the previous MOT certificate or the V5C. I've had three cars where the VIN didn't match the MOT/V5C. Nothing deliberate, just a mistake on the V5C that had been perpetuated for years.The last one was only picked up on last year.
My MoT man had difficulty with my 1910 Star when I first presented it to him, as the Chassis number given by his computer (and on the V5C) and the one on the maker's plate were not the same. We decided that it would be easiest if he were to MoT it with the incorrect number and I would get DVLA to amend the details later - which worked o.k.
I wouldn't condone the use of a ringer to do the number retention that this thread is about, but if having a specific number is important enough to someone, DVLA rules can be held to drive one to do that.
I wouldn't condone the use of a ringer to do the number retention that this thread is about, but if having a specific number is important enough to someone, DVLA rules can be held to drive one to do that.
DVLA website says - if you want to put a Reg No on retention:
You’ll need:
the 11 digit document reference number from the latest V5C vehicle registration certificate (logbook)
a valid credit or debit card
Your vehicle must be:
registered with DVLA
taxed or have a SORN (Statutory Off Road Notification) in place within the last 5 years
available for inspection
You’ll need:
the 11 digit document reference number from the latest V5C vehicle registration certificate (logbook)
a valid credit or debit card
Your vehicle must be:
registered with DVLA
taxed or have a SORN (Statutory Off Road Notification) in place within the last 5 years
available for inspection
- ************
Just found this on DVLA website....
8. If the person with the right to use the private number dies
The person in charge of the will (the ‘executor’) or person who has been left the number in the will (the ‘beneficiary’) can ask to either:
give up the V750 or V778 and the right to use the number (you can apply for a refund)
keep the private number and add their details to the V750 or V778
apply to assign it to their vehicle
put it in someone else’s name
8. If the person with the right to use the private number dies
The person in charge of the will (the ‘executor’) or person who has been left the number in the will (the ‘beneficiary’) can ask to either:
give up the V750 or V778 and the right to use the number (you can apply for a refund)
keep the private number and add their details to the V750 or V778
apply to assign it to their vehicle
put it in someone else’s name
dave444 said:
Available for inspection eh? I imagine they don't inspect every time they get a request, but perhaps they would for a 1972 vehicle??
I reckon they might want to check a car that has had no activity for 39 years. As soon as the request goes to the DVLA, it should really land in the 'dodgy as hell' incoming post pileIf a will was left, you can search probate records.
If you have the name, approx date of death and location, you can search here.
https://www.gov.uk/wills-probate-inheritance/searc...
If you have the name, approx date of death and location, you can search here.
https://www.gov.uk/wills-probate-inheritance/searc...
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